1 00:00:11,929 --> 00:00:14,299 hello and welcome to everyone joining us 2 00:00:14,299 --> 00:00:14,309 hello and welcome to everyone joining us 3 00:00:14,309 --> 00:00:16,760 hello and welcome to everyone joining us from around the globe thank you for 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:16,770 from around the globe thank you for 5 00:00:16,770 --> 00:00:18,260 from around the globe thank you for being part of day two of our special 6 00:00:18,260 --> 00:00:18,270 being part of day two of our special 7 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:20,720 being part of day two of our special series Ted connects this week we're 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:20,730 series Ted connects this week we're 9 00:00:20,730 --> 00:00:22,099 series Ted connects this week we're bringing you interviews from some of the 10 00:00:22,099 --> 00:00:22,109 bringing you interviews from some of the 11 00:00:22,109 --> 00:00:24,830 bringing you interviews from some of the world's greatest minds offer tools for 12 00:00:24,830 --> 00:00:24,840 world's greatest minds offer tools for 13 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,109 world's greatest minds offer tools for us to navigate through and thrive in 14 00:00:27,109 --> 00:00:27,119 us to navigate through and thrive in 15 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:29,810 us to navigate through and thrive in these really uncertain times I'm Whitney 16 00:00:29,810 --> 00:00:29,820 these really uncertain times I'm Whitney 17 00:00:29,820 --> 00:00:31,279 these really uncertain times I'm Whitney Pennington Rogers Ted's current affairs 18 00:00:31,279 --> 00:00:31,289 Pennington Rogers Ted's current affairs 19 00:00:31,289 --> 00:00:33,200 Pennington Rogers Ted's current affairs curator and I'll be one of your hosts 20 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,210 curator and I'll be one of your hosts 21 00:00:33,210 --> 00:00:35,690 curator and I'll be one of your hosts for today's event yesterday we kicked 22 00:00:35,690 --> 00:00:35,700 for today's event yesterday we kicked 23 00:00:35,700 --> 00:00:37,520 for today's event yesterday we kicked off this series with an interview from 24 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,530 off this series with an interview from 25 00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:39,920 off this series with an interview from acclaimed psychologist Susan David who 26 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:39,930 acclaimed psychologist Susan David who 27 00:00:39,930 --> 00:00:41,869 acclaimed psychologist Susan David who offered us some tips on how to really be 28 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:41,879 offered us some tips on how to really be 29 00:00:41,879 --> 00:00:43,880 offered us some tips on how to really be our best selves in these trying times 30 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:43,890 our best selves in these trying times 31 00:00:43,890 --> 00:00:46,790 our best selves in these trying times and we're gonna switch gears a little 32 00:00:46,790 --> 00:00:46,800 and we're gonna switch gears a little 33 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,069 and we're gonna switch gears a little bit today from thinking about our own 34 00:00:49,069 --> 00:00:49,079 bit today from thinking about our own 35 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:51,170 bit today from thinking about our own personal mental health to the state of 36 00:00:51,170 --> 00:00:51,180 personal mental health to the state of 37 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:53,510 personal mental health to the state of our global public health systems thank 38 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:53,520 our global public health systems thank 39 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,299 our global public health systems thank you I guess we have a pretty exciting 40 00:00:56,299 --> 00:00:56,309 you I guess we have a pretty exciting 41 00:00:56,309 --> 00:00:59,720 you I guess we have a pretty exciting guest to introduce on the other side of 42 00:00:59,720 --> 00:00:59,730 guest to introduce on the other side of 43 00:00:59,730 --> 00:01:00,349 guest to introduce on the other side of the country 44 00:01:00,349 --> 00:01:00,359 the country 45 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:03,709 the country let's bring in Bill Gates bill they say 46 00:01:03,709 --> 00:01:03,719 let's bring in Bill Gates bill they say 47 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:06,800 let's bring in Bill Gates bill they say the the best known people are the less 48 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:06,810 the the best known people are the less 49 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:09,289 the the best known people are the less you have to insure them so it's great to 50 00:01:09,289 --> 00:01:09,299 you have to insure them so it's great to 51 00:01:09,299 --> 00:01:13,940 you have to insure them so it's great to have you here how are you doing well I 52 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:13,950 have you here how are you doing well I 53 00:01:13,950 --> 00:01:17,719 have you here how are you doing well I think this is a unprecedented really 54 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:17,729 think this is a unprecedented really 55 00:01:17,729 --> 00:01:20,210 think this is a unprecedented really disconcerting time for everyone with 56 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:20,220 disconcerting time for everyone with 57 00:01:20,220 --> 00:01:22,510 disconcerting time for everyone with things being shut down not knowing 58 00:01:22,510 --> 00:01:22,520 things being shut down not knowing 59 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,950 things being shut down not knowing exactly how long it's going to last 60 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:24,960 exactly how long it's going to last 61 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,749 exactly how long it's going to last worrying about the health of all the 62 00:01:26,749 --> 00:01:26,759 worrying about the health of all the 63 00:01:26,759 --> 00:01:30,260 worrying about the health of all the people we care about mm-hmm you know I'm 64 00:01:30,260 --> 00:01:30,270 people we care about mm-hmm you know I'm 65 00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:33,219 people we care about mm-hmm you know I'm lucky that I get to connect up with 66 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:33,229 lucky that I get to connect up with 67 00:01:33,229 --> 00:01:36,260 lucky that I get to connect up with video conferencing using teams a lot so 68 00:01:36,260 --> 00:01:36,270 video conferencing using teams a lot so 69 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:39,200 video conferencing using teams a lot so that you know foundation is stepping up 70 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:39,210 that you know foundation is stepping up 71 00:01:39,210 --> 00:01:41,660 that you know foundation is stepping up and there's a lot of great people trying 72 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:41,670 and there's a lot of great people trying 73 00:01:41,670 --> 00:01:45,230 and there's a lot of great people trying to help with this crisis but it it's 74 00:01:45,230 --> 00:01:45,240 to help with this crisis but it it's 75 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,870 to help with this crisis but it it's scary for everyone you basically stuck 76 00:01:47,870 --> 00:01:47,880 scary for everyone you basically stuck 77 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,590 scary for everyone you basically stuck at home like like many of us watching 78 00:01:50,590 --> 00:01:50,600 at home like like many of us watching 79 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,889 at home like like many of us watching yeah almost all my meetings are using 80 00:01:54,889 --> 00:01:54,899 yeah almost all my meetings are using 81 00:01:54,899 --> 00:01:58,280 yeah almost all my meetings are using teams now I'm getting used to that you 82 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,290 teams now I'm getting used to that you 83 00:01:58,290 --> 00:02:01,880 teams now I'm getting used to that you know I've gone days without seems seen 84 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:01,890 know I've gone days without seems seen 85 00:02:01,890 --> 00:02:04,130 know I've gone days without seems seen any work coworkers 86 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:04,140 any work coworkers 87 00:02:04,140 --> 00:02:07,359 any work coworkers let's talk here bill five years ago you 88 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:07,369 let's talk here bill five years ago you 89 00:02:07,369 --> 00:02:11,390 let's talk here bill five years ago you stood on the Ted stage and you gave this 90 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:11,400 stood on the Ted stage and you gave this 91 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,280 stood on the Ted stage and you gave this this chilling warning that 92 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:13,290 this chilling warning that 93 00:02:13,290 --> 00:02:16,250 this chilling warning that the world was in danger at some point of 94 00:02:16,250 --> 00:02:16,260 the world was in danger at some point of 95 00:02:16,260 --> 00:02:19,399 the world was in danger at some point of a major pandemic people watching that 96 00:02:19,399 --> 00:02:19,409 a major pandemic people watching that 97 00:02:19,409 --> 00:02:21,709 a major pandemic people watching that talk now you know the hair stands up in 98 00:02:21,709 --> 00:02:21,719 talk now you know the hair stands up in 99 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:22,849 talk now you know the hair stands up in the back of their neck it is it is 100 00:02:22,849 --> 00:02:22,859 the back of their neck it is it is 101 00:02:22,859 --> 00:02:25,009 the back of their neck it is it is exactly what we're living through what 102 00:02:25,009 --> 00:02:25,019 exactly what we're living through what 103 00:02:25,019 --> 00:02:26,929 exactly what we're living through what happened it did people listened to that 104 00:02:26,929 --> 00:02:26,939 happened it did people listened to that 105 00:02:26,939 --> 00:02:33,080 happened it did people listened to that warning at all basically no you know I 106 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,090 warning at all basically no you know I 107 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:37,670 warning at all basically no you know I was hopeful that with the Zika and a 108 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:37,680 was hopeful that with the Zika and a 109 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,750 was hopeful that with the Zika and a bola and SARS and MERS they all reminded 110 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:41,760 bola and SARS and MERS they all reminded 111 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,300 bola and SARS and MERS they all reminded us that particularly in a world where 112 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:44,310 us that particularly in a world where 113 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:47,589 us that particularly in a world where people move around so much you can get 114 00:02:47,589 --> 00:02:47,599 people move around so much you can get 115 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:52,879 people move around so much you can get huge devastation and so the talk was to 116 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:52,889 huge devastation and so the talk was to 117 00:02:52,889 --> 00:02:55,520 huge devastation and so the talk was to say hey we're not ready for the next 118 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:55,530 say hey we're not ready for the next 119 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:59,030 say hey we're not ready for the next pandemic but in fact there's advances in 120 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:59,040 pandemic but in fact there's advances in 121 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,670 pandemic but in fact there's advances in science that if we put resources against 122 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:01,680 science that if we put resources against 123 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,960 science that if we put resources against them we can be ready sadly very little 124 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:05,970 them we can be ready sadly very little 125 00:03:05,970 --> 00:03:07,869 them we can be ready sadly very little was done there were some things the 126 00:03:07,869 --> 00:03:07,879 was done there were some things the 127 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,550 was done there were some things the Coalition for epidemic preparedness 128 00:03:10,550 --> 00:03:10,560 Coalition for epidemic preparedness 129 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Coalition for epidemic preparedness innovation CEP I was funded by our 130 00:03:14,679 --> 00:03:14,689 innovation CEP I was funded by our 131 00:03:14,689 --> 00:03:18,860 innovation CEP I was funded by our foundation Wellcome Trust and a number 132 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:18,870 foundation Wellcome Trust and a number 133 00:03:18,870 --> 00:03:22,420 foundation Wellcome Trust and a number of governments to do some of the 134 00:03:22,420 --> 00:03:22,430 of governments to do some of the 135 00:03:22,430 --> 00:03:26,719 of governments to do some of the platform vaccine work but the in the 136 00:03:26,719 --> 00:03:26,729 platform vaccine work but the in the 137 00:03:26,729 --> 00:03:28,610 platform vaccine work but the in the area of Diagnostics antibodies 138 00:03:28,610 --> 00:03:28,620 area of Diagnostics antibodies 139 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:32,000 area of Diagnostics antibodies antivirals basically doing the disease 140 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:32,010 antivirals basically doing the disease 141 00:03:32,010 --> 00:03:33,770 antivirals basically doing the disease games that I talked about where we'd 142 00:03:33,770 --> 00:03:33,780 games that I talked about where we'd 143 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:37,610 games that I talked about where we'd simulate what needed to be done we 144 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:37,620 simulate what needed to be done we 145 00:03:37,620 --> 00:03:40,729 simulate what needed to be done we hardly did anything and and so now here 146 00:03:40,729 --> 00:03:40,739 hardly did anything and and so now here 147 00:03:40,739 --> 00:03:43,939 hardly did anything and and so now here we have a respiratory virus that is 148 00:03:43,939 --> 00:03:43,949 we have a respiratory virus that is 149 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:47,149 we have a respiratory virus that is sadly fulfilling some of the more 150 00:03:47,149 --> 00:03:47,159 sadly fulfilling some of the more 151 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:50,689 sadly fulfilling some of the more negative predictions I made I mean last 152 00:03:50,689 --> 00:03:50,699 negative predictions I made I mean last 153 00:03:50,699 --> 00:03:53,240 negative predictions I made I mean last month you said that this might be the 154 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,250 month you said that this might be the 155 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:55,189 month you said that this might be the big one you you you you wrote that this 156 00:03:55,189 --> 00:03:55,199 big one you you you you wrote that this 157 00:03:55,199 --> 00:03:56,379 big one you you you you wrote that this this could be the sort of 158 00:03:56,379 --> 00:03:56,389 this could be the sort of 159 00:03:56,389 --> 00:03:58,479 this could be the sort of once-in-a-century 160 00:03:58,479 --> 00:03:58,489 once-in-a-century 161 00:03:58,489 --> 00:04:02,599 once-in-a-century pandemic that people had been fearing is 162 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:02,609 pandemic that people had been fearing is 163 00:04:02,609 --> 00:04:05,740 pandemic that people had been fearing is that how you think of it still well I 164 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:05,750 that how you think of it still well I 165 00:04:05,750 --> 00:04:09,379 that how you think of it still well I it's awful to say this but we could have 166 00:04:09,379 --> 00:04:09,389 it's awful to say this but we could have 167 00:04:09,389 --> 00:04:12,289 it's awful to say this but we could have a respiratory virus whose case fatality 168 00:04:12,289 --> 00:04:12,299 a respiratory virus whose case fatality 169 00:04:12,299 --> 00:04:14,899 a respiratory virus whose case fatality rate was even higher if this was 170 00:04:14,899 --> 00:04:14,909 rate was even higher if this was 171 00:04:14,909 --> 00:04:17,060 rate was even higher if this was something like smallpox you know that 172 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:17,070 something like smallpox you know that 173 00:04:17,070 --> 00:04:18,830 something like smallpox you know that kills 30 percent of people so this is 174 00:04:18,830 --> 00:04:18,840 kills 30 percent of people so this is 175 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:24,140 kills 30 percent of people so this is horrific but you know in fact most 176 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:24,150 horrific but you know in fact most 177 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:26,720 horrific but you know in fact most people even who get the Co 178 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:26,730 people even who get the Co 179 00:04:26,730 --> 00:04:30,620 people even who get the Co a disease are able to survive so in in 180 00:04:30,620 --> 00:04:30,630 a disease are able to survive so in in 181 00:04:30,630 --> 00:04:33,470 a disease are able to survive so in in that it's quite infectious way more 182 00:04:33,470 --> 00:04:33,480 that it's quite infectious way more 183 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,760 that it's quite infectious way more infectious than MERS or SARS were it's 184 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:37,770 infectious than MERS or SARS were it's 185 00:04:37,770 --> 00:04:43,070 infectious than MERS or SARS were it's not as fatal as they were and yet the 186 00:04:43,070 --> 00:04:43,080 not as fatal as they were and yet the 187 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,500 not as fatal as they were and yet the disruption were seen in order to knock 188 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:45,510 disruption were seen in order to knock 189 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:48,830 disruption were seen in order to knock it down is is you know really completely 190 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:48,840 it down is is you know really completely 191 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:52,940 it down is is you know really completely unprecedented so this is a you know it's 192 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:52,950 unprecedented so this is a you know it's 193 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:57,280 unprecedented so this is a you know it's going global that was it's respiratory 194 00:04:57,280 --> 00:04:57,290 going global that was it's respiratory 195 00:04:57,290 --> 00:05:02,120 going global that was it's respiratory that was the great fear how many people 196 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,130 that was the great fear how many people 197 00:05:02,130 --> 00:05:05,270 that was the great fear how many people end up dying hopefully you know if we do 198 00:05:05,270 --> 00:05:05,280 end up dying hopefully you know if we do 199 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:07,130 end up dying hopefully you know if we do the right things it won't be a gigantic 200 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:07,140 the right things it won't be a gigantic 201 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:11,180 the right things it won't be a gigantic number so it's you know we should end up 202 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:11,190 number so it's you know we should end up 203 00:05:11,190 --> 00:05:15,560 number so it's you know we should end up not having the 1918 flu situation we 204 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:15,570 not having the 1918 flu situation we 205 00:05:15,570 --> 00:05:17,060 not having the 1918 flu situation we should be able to do a lot better than 206 00:05:17,060 --> 00:05:17,070 should be able to do a lot better than 207 00:05:17,070 --> 00:05:20,210 should be able to do a lot better than that and that's that's because of 208 00:05:20,210 --> 00:05:20,220 that and that's that's because of 209 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:23,290 that and that's that's because of actions that we would take I mean left 210 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:23,300 actions that we would take I mean left 211 00:05:23,300 --> 00:05:26,570 actions that we would take I mean left without the right actions the prospects 212 00:05:26,570 --> 00:05:26,580 without the right actions the prospects 213 00:05:26,580 --> 00:05:28,100 without the right actions the prospects are pretty are pretty deadly I mean if 214 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:28,110 are pretty are pretty deadly I mean if 215 00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:32,060 are pretty are pretty deadly I mean if we if we knew what we knew in 1919 this 216 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:32,070 we if we knew what we knew in 1919 this 217 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:33,530 we if we knew what we knew in 1919 this thing could take out many tens of 218 00:05:33,530 --> 00:05:33,540 thing could take out many tens of 219 00:05:33,540 --> 00:05:34,610 thing could take out many tens of millions of people around the world 220 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:34,620 millions of people around the world 221 00:05:34,620 --> 00:05:38,540 millions of people around the world because like you said is the key thing 222 00:05:38,540 --> 00:05:38,550 because like you said is the key thing 223 00:05:38,550 --> 00:05:39,980 because like you said is the key thing here that is it's got this sort of 224 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:39,990 here that is it's got this sort of 225 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:43,490 here that is it's got this sort of strange combination of being certainly 226 00:05:43,490 --> 00:05:43,500 strange combination of being certainly 227 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:44,750 strange combination of being certainly more dangerous than flu not as dangerous 228 00:05:44,750 --> 00:05:44,760 more dangerous than flu not as dangerous 229 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,630 more dangerous than flu not as dangerous as something like Ebola or SARS but more 230 00:05:47,630 --> 00:05:47,640 as something like Ebola or SARS but more 231 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,200 as something like Ebola or SARS but more interesting than flu by a factor but but 232 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:51,210 interesting than flu by a factor but but 233 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:53,480 interesting than flu by a factor but but but infectious and and also infectious 234 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:53,490 but infectious and and also infectious 235 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:56,420 but infectious and and also infectious before symptoms have started is that 236 00:05:56,420 --> 00:05:56,430 before symptoms have started is that 237 00:05:56,430 --> 00:05:59,270 before symptoms have started is that part of why it's it's been really hard 238 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:59,280 part of why it's it's been really hard 239 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:00,550 part of why it's it's been really hard to respond to you 240 00:06:00,550 --> 00:06:00,560 to respond to you 241 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:06,110 to respond to you right so Ebola you're actually flat on 242 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:06,120 right so Ebola you're actually flat on 243 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,380 right so Ebola you're actually flat on your back before your very infectious so 244 00:06:09,380 --> 00:06:09,390 your back before your very infectious so 245 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:13,910 your back before your very infectious so you're not at church or in a bus or at a 246 00:06:13,910 --> 00:06:13,920 you're not at church or in a bus or at a 247 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,830 you're not at church or in a bus or at a store with most respiratory viruses like 248 00:06:18,830 --> 00:06:18,840 store with most respiratory viruses like 249 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,690 store with most respiratory viruses like the flu and kovat at first you only feel 250 00:06:23,690 --> 00:06:23,700 the flu and kovat at first you only feel 251 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:25,460 the flu and kovat at first you only feel a little bit of a fever and a little bit 252 00:06:25,460 --> 00:06:25,470 a little bit of a fever and a little bit 253 00:06:25,470 --> 00:06:27,560 a little bit of a fever and a little bit sick and so there's the possibility 254 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:27,570 sick and so there's the possibility 255 00:06:27,570 --> 00:06:30,460 sick and so there's the possibility you're going about your normal 256 00:06:30,460 --> 00:06:30,470 you're going about your normal 257 00:06:30,470 --> 00:06:34,220 you're going about your normal activities and infecting other people 258 00:06:34,220 --> 00:06:34,230 activities and infecting other people 259 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:36,920 activities and infecting other people and so right you know human and human 260 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:36,930 and so right you know human and human 261 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:39,230 and so right you know human and human transmissible respiratory viruses that 262 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:39,240 transmissible respiratory viruses that 263 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,060 transmissible respiratory viruses that in the early 264 00:06:40,060 --> 00:06:40,070 in the early 265 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:44,890 in the early stage aren't stopping you from doing 266 00:06:44,890 --> 00:06:44,900 stage aren't stopping you from doing 267 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:47,980 stage aren't stopping you from doing things that's kind of a worst case and 268 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:47,990 things that's kind of a worst case and 269 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:49,960 things that's kind of a worst case and that's where you know I did a flu 270 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:49,970 that's where you know I did a flu 271 00:06:49,970 --> 00:06:53,200 that's where you know I did a flu simulation in the 2015 talk and showed 272 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:53,210 simulation in the 2015 talk and showed 273 00:06:53,210 --> 00:06:55,510 simulation in the 2015 talk and showed how quickly it spread you know versus 274 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:55,520 how quickly it spread you know versus 275 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:00,220 how quickly it spread you know versus 1918 people move around a lot more now 276 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:00,230 1918 people move around a lot more now 277 00:07:00,230 --> 00:07:02,380 1918 people move around a lot more now than they used to and so that works 278 00:07:02,380 --> 00:07:02,390 than they used to and so that works 279 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:04,690 than they used to and so that works against us now the medical system that 280 00:07:04,690 --> 00:07:04,700 against us now the medical system that 281 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:07,600 against us now the medical system that steps up to treat people is also far far 282 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:07,610 steps up to treat people is also far far 283 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:09,790 steps up to treat people is also far far better but it was when was it clear to 284 00:07:09,790 --> 00:07:09,800 better but it was when was it clear to 285 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,810 better but it was when was it clear to you that that unless we acted this this 286 00:07:13,810 --> 00:07:13,820 you that that unless we acted this this 287 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:17,380 you that that unless we acted this this could be a really deadly pandemic well 288 00:07:17,380 --> 00:07:17,390 could be a really deadly pandemic well 289 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:22,060 could be a really deadly pandemic well in January it was discussed that there 290 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:22,070 in January it was discussed that there 291 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:24,280 in January it was discussed that there was human human transmission taking 292 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:24,290 was human human transmission taking 293 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:30,060 was human human transmission taking place and so you know the alarm bells 294 00:07:30,060 --> 00:07:30,070 place and so you know the alarm bells 295 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:35,920 place and so you know the alarm bells were ringing that this fits the very 296 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:35,930 were ringing that this fits the very 297 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:39,850 were ringing that this fits the very scary pattern that it will be very 298 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:39,860 scary pattern that it will be very 299 00:07:39,860 --> 00:07:44,200 scary pattern that it will be very difficult to contain and in in on 300 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,210 difficult to contain and in in on 301 00:07:44,210 --> 00:07:47,830 difficult to contain and in in on January 23rd China did their equivalent 302 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:47,840 January 23rd China did their equivalent 303 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,350 January 23rd China did their equivalent of the shutdown did it in a fairly 304 00:07:50,350 --> 00:07:50,360 of the shutdown did it in a fairly 305 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,070 of the shutdown did it in a fairly extreme form the very good news is that 306 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:54,080 extreme form the very good news is that 307 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,460 extreme form the very good news is that they were able to reduce the infection 308 00:07:57,460 --> 00:07:57,470 they were able to reduce the infection 309 00:07:57,470 --> 00:08:01,480 they were able to reduce the infection rates dramatically because of those 310 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:01,490 rates dramatically because of those 311 00:08:01,490 --> 00:08:04,750 rates dramatically because of those actions but it's it's January where 312 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:04,760 actions but it's it's January where 313 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,200 actions but it's it's January where everybody should have been on notice 314 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:07,210 everybody should have been on notice 315 00:08:07,210 --> 00:08:10,030 everybody should have been on notice let's get our act together with testing 316 00:08:10,030 --> 00:08:10,040 let's get our act together with testing 317 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,330 let's get our act together with testing let's get going on therapeutics and 318 00:08:13,330 --> 00:08:13,340 let's get going on therapeutics and 319 00:08:13,340 --> 00:08:16,120 let's get going on therapeutics and vaccines we've got to get organized 320 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:16,130 vaccines we've got to get organized 321 00:08:16,130 --> 00:08:18,910 vaccines we've got to get organized because we have this novel respiratory 322 00:08:18,910 --> 00:08:18,920 because we have this novel respiratory 323 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,330 because we have this novel respiratory virus whose infectiousness and fatality 324 00:08:22,330 --> 00:08:22,340 virus whose infectiousness and fatality 325 00:08:22,340 --> 00:08:26,380 virus whose infectiousness and fatality put it in that super scary range and so 326 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:26,390 put it in that super scary range and so 327 00:08:26,390 --> 00:08:28,780 put it in that super scary range and so what what did happens is such a mystery 328 00:08:28,780 --> 00:08:28,790 what what did happens is such a mystery 329 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:32,380 what what did happens is such a mystery to me about the sort of the last month 330 00:08:32,380 --> 00:08:32,390 to me about the sort of the last month 331 00:08:32,390 --> 00:08:35,320 to me about the sort of the last month of preparation certainly I mean in many 332 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:35,330 of preparation certainly I mean in many 333 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:36,610 of preparation certainly I mean in many countries and certainly in the u.s. 334 00:08:36,610 --> 00:08:36,620 countries and certainly in the u.s. 335 00:08:36,620 --> 00:08:40,420 countries and certainly in the u.s. we're where we are were you on the phone 336 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:40,430 we're where we are were you on the phone 337 00:08:40,430 --> 00:08:43,300 we're where we are were you on the phone to people during early February late 338 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:43,310 to people during early February late 339 00:08:43,310 --> 00:08:45,790 to people during early February late January early February saying you know 340 00:08:45,790 --> 00:08:45,800 January early February saying you know 341 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,910 January early February saying you know guys you know what's going on this is a 342 00:08:48,910 --> 00:08:48,920 guys you know what's going on this is a 343 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,680 guys you know what's going on this is a really big deal what are we doing what 344 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:50,690 really big deal what are we doing what 345 00:08:50,690 --> 00:08:52,270 really big deal what are we doing what what was happening behind the scenes 346 00:08:52,270 --> 00:08:52,280 what was happening behind the scenes 347 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,050 what was happening behind the scenes during 348 00:08:53,050 --> 00:08:53,060 during 349 00:08:53,060 --> 00:08:55,720 during period well you'd like to have 350 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:55,730 period well you'd like to have 351 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:58,180 period well you'd like to have government money show up for the key 352 00:08:58,180 --> 00:08:58,190 government money show up for the key 353 00:08:58,190 --> 00:09:01,930 government money show up for the key activities we put out a hundred million 354 00:09:01,930 --> 00:09:01,940 activities we put out a hundred million 355 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:04,750 activities we put out a hundred million we created the therapeutics accelerator 356 00:09:04,750 --> 00:09:04,760 we created the therapeutics accelerator 357 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,140 we created the therapeutics accelerator there's the period between when we 358 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:08,150 there's the period between when we 359 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:10,300 there's the period between when we realized it was transmitting and now 360 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:10,310 realized it was transmitting and now 361 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:12,670 realized it was transmitting and now where we should have done more I think 362 00:09:12,670 --> 00:09:12,680 where we should have done more I think 363 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,260 where we should have done more I think the most important thing to discuss 364 00:09:14,260 --> 00:09:14,270 the most important thing to discuss 365 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:18,750 the most important thing to discuss today is that in the area of testing 366 00:09:18,750 --> 00:09:18,760 today is that in the area of testing 367 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:23,680 today is that in the area of testing we're still not creating that capacity 368 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:23,690 we're still not creating that capacity 369 00:09:23,690 --> 00:09:26,620 we're still not creating that capacity and applying it to the people most in 370 00:09:26,620 --> 00:09:26,630 and applying it to the people most in 371 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:29,110 and applying it to the people most in need and so we have health workers who 372 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:29,120 need and so we have health workers who 373 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,370 need and so we have health workers who are symptomatic who can't get a test and 374 00:09:33,370 --> 00:09:33,380 are symptomatic who can't get a test and 375 00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:35,320 are symptomatic who can't get a test and so they don't know should they go in and 376 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:35,330 so they don't know should they go in and 377 00:09:35,330 --> 00:09:37,690 so they don't know should they go in and not go in and yet we have lots of tests 378 00:09:37,690 --> 00:09:37,700 not go in and yet we have lots of tests 379 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:39,880 not go in and yet we have lots of tests being given to people aren't symptomatic 380 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:39,890 being given to people aren't symptomatic 381 00:09:39,890 --> 00:09:43,600 being given to people aren't symptomatic and so the testing thing to me it it's 382 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:43,610 and so the testing thing to me it it's 383 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:45,760 and so the testing thing to me it it's got to be organized it's got to be 384 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:45,770 got to be organized it's got to be 385 00:09:45,770 --> 00:09:50,800 got to be organized it's got to be prioritized that is super super Junt the 386 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:50,810 prioritized that is super super Junt the 387 00:09:50,810 --> 00:09:53,470 prioritized that is super super Junt the second thing is the isolation that you 388 00:09:53,470 --> 00:09:53,480 second thing is the isolation that you 389 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,810 second thing is the isolation that you know various parts just focusing on the 390 00:09:55,810 --> 00:09:55,820 know various parts just focusing on the 391 00:09:55,820 --> 00:09:58,510 know various parts just focusing on the u.s. some parts are doing that in a 392 00:09:58,510 --> 00:09:58,520 u.s. some parts are doing that in a 393 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,120 u.s. some parts are doing that in a fairly strong way and other parts not 394 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,130 fairly strong way and other parts not 395 00:10:01,130 --> 00:10:03,700 fairly strong way and other parts not yet and you know it's very hard to do 396 00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:03,710 yet and you know it's very hard to do 397 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:06,610 yet and you know it's very hard to do it's tough on people it's disastrous for 398 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:06,620 it's tough on people it's disastrous for 399 00:10:06,620 --> 00:10:12,460 it's tough on people it's disastrous for the economy but they sooner you do it in 400 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:12,470 the economy but they sooner you do it in 401 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:16,840 the economy but they sooner you do it in a in a tough way the sooner you can undo 402 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:16,850 a in a tough way the sooner you can undo 403 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:22,060 a in a tough way the sooner you can undo it and go back to normal I sense it will 404 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:22,070 it and go back to normal I sense it will 405 00:10:22,070 --> 00:10:24,070 it and go back to normal I sense it will come to the isolation pot in in a minute 406 00:10:24,070 --> 00:10:24,080 come to the isolation pot in in a minute 407 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,390 come to the isolation pot in in a minute but it's just sticking with the testing 408 00:10:25,390 --> 00:10:25,400 but it's just sticking with the testing 409 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,290 but it's just sticking with the testing thing I'm just so confused as to why 410 00:10:29,290 --> 00:10:29,300 thing I'm just so confused as to why 411 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:31,690 thing I'm just so confused as to why with more than a month's notice I mean 412 00:10:31,690 --> 00:10:31,700 with more than a month's notice I mean 413 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:33,730 with more than a month's notice I mean there are so many smart epidemiologists 414 00:10:33,730 --> 00:10:33,740 there are so many smart epidemiologists 415 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:36,160 there are so many smart epidemiologists in the in the US for example you plug 416 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:36,170 in the in the US for example you plug 417 00:10:36,170 --> 00:10:38,170 in the in the US for example you plug numbers about infectious nurse and 418 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:38,180 numbers about infectious nurse and 419 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:40,090 numbers about infectious nurse and fatality into any simulation and you see 420 00:10:40,090 --> 00:10:40,100 fatality into any simulation and you see 421 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:42,190 fatality into any simulation and you see that if you don't do anything millions 422 00:10:42,190 --> 00:10:42,200 that if you don't do anything millions 423 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,260 that if you don't do anything millions of people will die and there's a month 424 00:10:44,260 --> 00:10:44,270 of people will die and there's a month 425 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:48,310 of people will die and there's a month so what what's your explanation for what 426 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:48,320 so what what's your explanation for what 427 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,600 so what what's your explanation for what what do you think happened here as to 428 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:49,610 what do you think happened here as to 429 00:10:49,610 --> 00:10:52,420 what do you think happened here as to why just know there was almost no test a 430 00:10:52,420 --> 00:10:52,430 why just know there was almost no test a 431 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:54,730 why just know there was almost no test a month later there was no viable test in 432 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:54,740 month later there was no viable test in 433 00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:58,140 month later there was no viable test in the US was this just government 434 00:10:58,140 --> 00:10:58,150 the US was this just government 435 00:10:58,150 --> 00:11:01,030 the US was this just government complexity too many chefs in the kitchen 436 00:11:01,030 --> 00:11:01,040 complexity too many chefs in the kitchen 437 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,820 complexity too many chefs in the kitchen what on earth happened here 438 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:03,830 what on earth happened here 439 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:06,710 what on earth happened here well we certainly didn't take advantage 440 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:06,720 well we certainly didn't take advantage 441 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,980 well we certainly didn't take advantage of the month of February the good news 442 00:11:09,980 --> 00:11:09,990 of the month of February the good news 443 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:15,430 of the month of February the good news is that the actual process the PCR 444 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:15,440 is that the actual process the PCR 445 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,590 is that the actual process the PCR machines we have a lot in the United 446 00:11:18,590 --> 00:11:18,600 machines we have a lot in the United 447 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,949 machines we have a lot in the United States and so there's models like South 448 00:11:21,949 --> 00:11:21,959 States and so there's models like South 449 00:11:21,959 --> 00:11:24,590 States and so there's models like South Korea who took advantage of February 450 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:24,600 Korea who took advantage of February 451 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Korea who took advantage of February built up the testing capacity and they 452 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:27,810 built up the testing capacity and they 453 00:11:27,810 --> 00:11:30,050 built up the testing capacity and they were able to contact race and their 454 00:11:30,050 --> 00:11:30,060 were able to contact race and their 455 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:32,810 were able to contact race and their infections have gone down even without 456 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:32,820 infections have gone down even without 457 00:11:32,820 --> 00:11:35,569 infections have gone down even without the type of shutdown that because we're 458 00:11:35,569 --> 00:11:35,579 the type of shutdown that because we're 459 00:11:35,579 --> 00:11:38,840 the type of shutdown that because we're late we're having to do one thing that 460 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:38,850 late we're having to do one thing that 461 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:42,759 late we're having to do one thing that is good news just this week is that 462 00:11:42,759 --> 00:11:42,769 is good news just this week is that 463 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:45,920 is good news just this week is that people are thought to do this test that 464 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:45,930 people are thought to do this test that 465 00:11:45,930 --> 00:11:48,319 people are thought to do this test that you have to have a nurse or doctor shove 466 00:11:48,319 --> 00:11:48,329 you have to have a nurse or doctor shove 467 00:11:48,329 --> 00:11:51,949 you have to have a nurse or doctor shove a swab way up all the way to the back of 468 00:11:51,949 --> 00:11:51,959 a swab way up all the way to the back of 469 00:11:51,959 --> 00:11:54,400 a swab way up all the way to the back of your throat which hurts a lot but also 470 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:54,410 your throat which hurts a lot but also 471 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:57,440 your throat which hurts a lot but also you're gonna cough and potentially 472 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,450 you're gonna cough and potentially 473 00:11:57,450 --> 00:11:59,180 you're gonna cough and potentially spread the disease to that healthcare 474 00:11:59,180 --> 00:11:59,190 spread the disease to that healthcare 475 00:11:59,190 --> 00:12:00,889 spread the disease to that healthcare worker so they have to have protective 476 00:12:00,889 --> 00:12:00,899 worker so they have to have protective 477 00:12:00,899 --> 00:12:04,190 worker so they have to have protective equipment and change that what we sent 478 00:12:04,190 --> 00:12:04,200 equipment and change that what we sent 479 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,850 equipment and change that what we sent data to the FDA this weekend showing 480 00:12:07,850 --> 00:12:07,860 data to the FDA this weekend showing 481 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:11,030 data to the FDA this weekend showing that just a individual by themselves 482 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:11,040 that just a individual by themselves 483 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,620 that just a individual by themselves swabbing up to the tip of their nose 484 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:14,630 swabbing up to the tip of their nose 485 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:17,930 swabbing up to the tip of their nose they are able the accuracy of that test 486 00:12:17,930 --> 00:12:17,940 they are able the accuracy of that test 487 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:21,260 they are able the accuracy of that test is essentially the same as having a 488 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:21,270 is essentially the same as having a 489 00:12:21,270 --> 00:12:24,290 is essentially the same as having a healthcare worker do it that helps a lot 490 00:12:24,290 --> 00:12:24,300 healthcare worker do it that helps a lot 491 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:26,810 healthcare worker do it that helps a lot it we still have to do other things but 492 00:12:26,810 --> 00:12:26,820 it we still have to do other things but 493 00:12:26,820 --> 00:12:29,870 it we still have to do other things but that means that you don't have to change 494 00:12:29,870 --> 00:12:29,880 that means that you don't have to change 495 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,880 that means that you don't have to change protective equipment you just hand the 496 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:31,890 protective equipment you just hand the 497 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:34,880 protective equipment you just hand the patient that swab they do it put it in 498 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:34,890 patient that swab they do it put it in 499 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:37,340 patient that swab they do it put it in the test tube and if the capacities 500 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:37,350 the test tube and if the capacities 501 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:40,220 the test tube and if the capacities right within 24 hours you should get 502 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:40,230 right within 24 hours you should get 503 00:12:40,230 --> 00:12:43,130 right within 24 hours you should get that result back so how do you see that 504 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:43,140 that result back so how do you see that 505 00:12:43,140 --> 00:12:46,490 that result back so how do you see that playing out that other people kind of 506 00:12:46,490 --> 00:12:46,500 playing out that other people kind of 507 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:48,889 playing out that other people kind of massively scale there's those tests and 508 00:12:48,889 --> 00:12:48,899 massively scale there's those tests and 509 00:12:48,899 --> 00:12:52,130 massively scale there's those tests and and how will how will ordinary citizens 510 00:12:52,130 --> 00:12:52,140 and how will how will ordinary citizens 511 00:12:52,140 --> 00:12:54,439 and how will how will ordinary citizens be able to get hold of them it does it 512 00:12:54,439 --> 00:12:54,449 be able to get hold of them it does it 513 00:12:54,449 --> 00:12:55,519 be able to get hold of them it does it still have to be actually kind of 514 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:55,529 still have to be actually kind of 515 00:12:55,529 --> 00:12:57,650 still have to be actually kind of prescribed by a doctor at some point or 516 00:12:57,650 --> 00:12:57,660 prescribed by a doctor at some point or 517 00:12:57,660 --> 00:12:59,569 prescribed by a doctor at some point or at some point will you be able to just 518 00:12:59,569 --> 00:12:59,579 at some point will you be able to just 519 00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:01,699 at some point will you be able to just order them off Amazon or something and 520 00:13:01,699 --> 00:13:01,709 order them off Amazon or something and 521 00:13:01,709 --> 00:13:04,160 order them off Amazon or something and well pretty chaotic today because the 522 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:04,170 well pretty chaotic today because the 523 00:13:04,170 --> 00:13:06,650 well pretty chaotic today because the government hasn't stepped in to make 524 00:13:06,650 --> 00:13:06,660 government hasn't stepped in to make 525 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:08,840 government hasn't stepped in to make sure that the testing capacity is both 526 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:08,850 sure that the testing capacity is both 527 00:13:08,850 --> 00:13:10,759 sure that the testing capacity is both increased and it's used for the right 528 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:10,769 increased and it's used for the right 529 00:13:10,769 --> 00:13:16,069 increased and it's used for the right cases there will be a website and if the 530 00:13:16,069 --> 00:13:16,079 cases there will be a website and if the 531 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:17,040 cases there will be a website and if the federal 532 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:17,050 federal 533 00:13:17,050 --> 00:13:18,930 federal doesn't do it a lot of local governments 534 00:13:18,930 --> 00:13:18,940 doesn't do it a lot of local governments 535 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:21,090 doesn't do it a lot of local governments will have to do it that you go to you 536 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:21,100 will have to do it that you go to you 537 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,920 will have to do it that you go to you give your situation including your 538 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:22,930 give your situation including your 539 00:13:22,930 --> 00:13:26,070 give your situation including your symptoms you're told you know based on 540 00:13:26,070 --> 00:13:26,080 symptoms you're told you know based on 541 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,350 symptoms you're told you know based on your work and your symptoms are you a 542 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:28,360 your work and your symptoms are you a 543 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,440 your work and your symptoms are you a priority if so you're told where there 544 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:31,450 priority if so you're told where there 545 00:13:31,450 --> 00:13:34,350 priority if so you're told where there are kiosks you can go to and you'll do 546 00:13:34,350 --> 00:13:34,360 are kiosks you can go to and you'll do 547 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,460 are kiosks you can go to and you'll do the self swab and just hand it over or 548 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:37,470 the self swab and just hand it over or 549 00:13:37,470 --> 00:13:41,579 the self swab and just hand it over or eventually we'll send the kits to you at 550 00:13:41,579 --> 00:13:41,589 eventually we'll send the kits to you at 551 00:13:41,589 --> 00:13:45,600 eventually we'll send the kits to you at home and then you'll send it back and 552 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:45,610 home and then you'll send it back and 553 00:13:45,610 --> 00:13:48,120 home and then you'll send it back and and hear that result maybe six months 554 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,130 and hear that result maybe six months 555 00:13:48,130 --> 00:13:50,100 and hear that result maybe six months from now you'll actually be able to have 556 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:50,110 from now you'll actually be able to have 557 00:13:50,110 --> 00:13:51,900 from now you'll actually be able to have a strip where you perform the tests in 558 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:51,910 a strip where you perform the tests in 559 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:54,329 a strip where you perform the tests in the home but for now they sending it 560 00:13:54,329 --> 00:13:54,339 the home but for now they sending it 561 00:13:54,339 --> 00:13:57,120 the home but for now they sending it back for the PCR processing we can have 562 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,130 back for the PCR processing we can have 563 00:13:57,130 --> 00:14:00,269 back for the PCR processing we can have massive capacity there and that's how 564 00:14:00,269 --> 00:14:00,279 massive capacity there and that's how 565 00:14:00,279 --> 00:14:03,480 massive capacity there and that's how you know the testing is everything 566 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:03,490 you know the testing is everything 567 00:14:03,490 --> 00:14:05,220 you know the testing is everything because that's how you know whether you 568 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:05,230 because that's how you know whether you 569 00:14:05,230 --> 00:14:08,250 because that's how you know whether you need to do more shutdown or you're 570 00:14:08,250 --> 00:14:08,260 need to do more shutdown or you're 571 00:14:08,260 --> 00:14:09,750 need to do more shutdown or you're starting to get to the point where you 572 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:09,760 starting to get to the point where you 573 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,400 starting to get to the point where you can relieve it some people are trying to 574 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:11,410 can relieve it some people are trying to 575 00:14:11,410 --> 00:14:14,850 can relieve it some people are trying to argue now that almost the testing should 576 00:14:14,850 --> 00:14:14,860 argue now that almost the testing should 577 00:14:14,860 --> 00:14:16,319 argue now that almost the testing should be dogged back because you know the cat 578 00:14:16,319 --> 00:14:16,329 be dogged back because you know the cat 579 00:14:16,329 --> 00:14:18,630 be dogged back because you know the cat is out of the bag testing is bringing 580 00:14:18,630 --> 00:14:18,640 is out of the bag testing is bringing 581 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,519 is out of the bag testing is bringing people together and risking infection 582 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:20,529 people together and risking infection 583 00:14:20,529 --> 00:14:22,800 people together and risking infection you know forget that let's just focus on 584 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:22,810 you know forget that let's just focus on 585 00:14:22,810 --> 00:14:24,810 you know forget that let's just focus on treatment and on isolate and on 586 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:24,820 treatment and on isolate and on 587 00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:27,600 treatment and on isolate and on isolation strategies you disagree with 588 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:27,610 isolation strategies you disagree with 589 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:29,040 isolation strategies you disagree with that testing is still absolutely 590 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,050 that testing is still absolutely 591 00:14:29,050 --> 00:14:31,050 that testing is still absolutely essential and it needs to be swelling it 592 00:14:31,050 --> 00:14:31,060 essential and it needs to be swelling it 593 00:14:31,060 --> 00:14:35,310 essential and it needs to be swelling it did go together our testing at very high 594 00:14:35,310 --> 00:14:35,320 did go together our testing at very high 595 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,550 did go together our testing at very high volume and the isolation piece if you're 596 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:38,560 volume and the isolation piece if you're 597 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 volume and the isolation piece if you're a if you're a medical worker you want to 598 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:40,570 a if you're a medical worker you want to 599 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:42,810 a if you're a medical worker you want to stay and do your job if you're making 600 00:14:42,810 --> 00:14:42,820 stay and do your job if you're making 601 00:14:42,820 --> 00:14:46,319 stay and do your job if you're making sure the electricity water or food is 602 00:14:46,319 --> 00:14:46,329 sure the electricity water or food is 603 00:14:46,329 --> 00:14:49,590 sure the electricity water or food is still available you want to do your job 604 00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:49,600 still available you want to do your job 605 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,670 still available you want to do your job and so testing is what indicates to you 606 00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:53,680 and so testing is what indicates to you 607 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,819 and so testing is what indicates to you do you need to go into isolation and 608 00:14:56,819 --> 00:14:56,829 do you need to go into isolation and 609 00:14:56,829 --> 00:14:58,230 do you need to go into isolation and make sure you're not the source of 610 00:14:58,230 --> 00:14:58,240 make sure you're not the source of 611 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:03,689 make sure you're not the source of spread and so you know testing is is the 612 00:15:03,689 --> 00:15:03,699 spread and so you know testing is is the 613 00:15:03,699 --> 00:15:07,260 spread and so you know testing is is the key thing you know South Korea did that 614 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:07,270 key thing you know South Korea did that 615 00:15:07,270 --> 00:15:11,280 key thing you know South Korea did that in this massive way that you know 616 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:11,290 in this massive way that you know 617 00:15:11,290 --> 00:15:14,490 in this massive way that you know everybody should learn from and so that 618 00:15:14,490 --> 00:15:14,500 everybody should learn from and so that 619 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:18,120 everybody should learn from and so that it that is paired with the isolation 620 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,130 it that is paired with the isolation 621 00:15:18,130 --> 00:15:22,259 it that is paired with the isolation piece our goal here is to get to the 622 00:15:22,259 --> 00:15:22,269 piece our goal here is to get to the 623 00:15:22,269 --> 00:15:24,960 piece our goal here is to get to the point where a very small percentage of 624 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:24,970 point where a very small percentage of 625 00:15:24,970 --> 00:15:27,180 point where a very small percentage of the population is infected you know 626 00:15:27,180 --> 00:15:27,190 the population is infected you know 627 00:15:27,190 --> 00:15:29,790 the population is infected you know China only 0.01 percent of the 628 00:15:29,790 --> 00:15:29,800 China only 0.01 percent of the 629 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,780 China only 0.01 percent of the population was in 630 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:30,790 population was in 631 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:33,810 population was in affected if you let it if you don't do 632 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:33,820 affected if you let it if you don't do 633 00:15:33,820 --> 00:15:36,180 affected if you let it if you don't do these things you're gonna get to the 634 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:36,190 these things you're gonna get to the 635 00:15:36,190 --> 00:15:39,110 these things you're gonna get to the majority people infected and that huge 636 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:39,120 majority people infected and that huge 637 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,380 majority people infected and that huge overload of the medical system Whitney 638 00:15:43,380 --> 00:15:43,390 overload of the medical system Whitney 639 00:15:43,390 --> 00:15:45,180 overload of the medical system Whitney has some questions from our online 640 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:45,190 has some questions from our online 641 00:15:45,190 --> 00:15:45,990 has some questions from our online audience 642 00:15:45,990 --> 00:15:46,000 audience 643 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,910 audience Whitney some of the questions that we're 644 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:47,920 Whitney some of the questions that we're 645 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,760 Whitney some of the questions that we're seeing are about how our tech giant's 646 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:50,770 seeing are about how our tech giant's 647 00:15:50,770 --> 00:15:53,070 seeing are about how our tech giant's and leaders can play a role in in 648 00:15:53,070 --> 00:15:53,080 and leaders can play a role in in 649 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,990 and leaders can play a role in in isolating this and containing this on 650 00:15:54,990 --> 00:15:55,000 isolating this and containing this on 651 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,170 isolating this and containing this on this virus you know the tech companies 652 00:15:58,170 --> 00:15:58,180 this virus you know the tech companies 653 00:15:58,180 --> 00:15:59,880 this virus you know the tech companies are very involved in making sure that 654 00:15:59,880 --> 00:15:59,890 are very involved in making sure that 655 00:15:59,890 --> 00:16:01,920 are very involved in making sure that some work can go on 656 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:01,930 some work can go on 657 00:16:01,930 --> 00:16:04,800 some work can go on you know people can stay in touch you 658 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:04,810 you know people can stay in touch you 659 00:16:04,810 --> 00:16:06,000 you know people can stay in touch you know they can help with some of the 660 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:06,010 know they can help with some of the 661 00:16:06,010 --> 00:16:08,160 know they can help with some of the disease modeling they can help with the 662 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:08,170 disease modeling they can help with the 663 00:16:08,170 --> 00:16:10,260 disease modeling they can help with the disability of the numbers it's actually 664 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:10,270 disability of the numbers it's actually 665 00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:11,790 disability of the numbers it's actually very impressive you know you get up 666 00:16:11,790 --> 00:16:11,800 very impressive you know you get up 667 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,830 very impressive you know you get up there and you can see you know those 668 00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:13,840 there and you can see you know those 669 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,900 there and you can see you know those numbers actually they're sad numbers but 670 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:15,910 numbers actually they're sad numbers but 671 00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:18,270 numbers actually they're sad numbers but you know everybody is able to monitor 672 00:16:18,270 --> 00:16:18,280 you know everybody is able to monitor 673 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,570 you know everybody is able to monitor this thing back in 1918 they didn't have 674 00:16:21,570 --> 00:16:21,580 this thing back in 1918 they didn't have 675 00:16:21,580 --> 00:16:25,290 this thing back in 1918 they didn't have this type of visibility and an ability 676 00:16:25,290 --> 00:16:25,300 this type of visibility and an ability 677 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:30,480 this type of visibility and an ability to share best practices but for a lot of 678 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:30,490 to share best practices but for a lot of 679 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:32,730 to share best practices but for a lot of people the isolation is the key thing I 680 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:32,740 people the isolation is the key thing I 681 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:35,220 people the isolation is the key thing I mean bill one of the the riddles about 682 00:16:35,220 --> 00:16:35,230 mean bill one of the the riddles about 683 00:16:35,230 --> 00:16:40,830 mean bill one of the the riddles about this isolation strategy is how long it 684 00:16:40,830 --> 00:16:40,840 this isolation strategy is how long it 685 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,470 this isolation strategy is how long it how long has to last right like a lot of 686 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:43,480 how long has to last right like a lot of 687 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,220 how long has to last right like a lot of people are concerned that the the price 688 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:47,230 people are concerned that the the price 689 00:16:47,230 --> 00:16:50,520 people are concerned that the the price of victory by isolating everyone is that 690 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:50,530 of victory by isolating everyone is that 691 00:16:50,530 --> 00:16:52,470 of victory by isolating everyone is that you crash the economy and that you know 692 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:52,480 you crash the economy and that you know 693 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,950 you crash the economy and that you know what we have to be basically at home not 694 00:16:55,950 --> 00:16:55,960 what we have to be basically at home not 695 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,200 what we have to be basically at home not doing our regular jobs for three six 696 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:58,210 doing our regular jobs for three six 697 00:16:58,210 --> 00:17:01,050 doing our regular jobs for three six months maybe it may be all year and so 698 00:17:01,050 --> 00:17:01,060 months maybe it may be all year and so 699 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:02,670 months maybe it may be all year and so much so that there's now this big debate 700 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:02,680 much so that there's now this big debate 701 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,130 much so that there's now this big debate in the US and other countries about this 702 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:05,140 in the US and other countries about this 703 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:06,720 in the US and other countries about this may just be the wrong strategy that we 704 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:06,730 may just be the wrong strategy that we 705 00:17:06,730 --> 00:17:09,540 may just be the wrong strategy that we can't crash the economy that badly we 706 00:17:09,540 --> 00:17:09,550 can't crash the economy that badly we 707 00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:11,580 can't crash the economy that badly we should only isolate for another couple 708 00:17:11,580 --> 00:17:11,590 should only isolate for another couple 709 00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:13,830 should only isolate for another couple weeks and then let people back and if 710 00:17:13,830 --> 00:17:13,840 weeks and then let people back and if 711 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,570 weeks and then let people back and if that means you know a lot of other 712 00:17:15,570 --> 00:17:15,580 that means you know a lot of other 713 00:17:15,580 --> 00:17:17,130 that means you know a lot of other people get sick and we eventually build 714 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:17,140 people get sick and we eventually build 715 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:18,780 people get sick and we eventually build up herd humidity that may be the right 716 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:18,790 up herd humidity that may be the right 717 00:17:18,790 --> 00:17:20,940 up herd humidity that may be the right the right way to go what's your thought 718 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:20,950 the right way to go what's your thought 719 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:23,910 the right way to go what's your thought on this what is the isolation strategy 720 00:17:23,910 --> 00:17:23,920 on this what is the isolation strategy 721 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,730 on this what is the isolation strategy that eventually leads to us getting back 722 00:17:26,730 --> 00:17:26,740 that eventually leads to us getting back 723 00:17:26,740 --> 00:17:30,090 that eventually leads to us getting back to normal and it's very tough to say to 724 00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:30,100 to normal and it's very tough to say to 725 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:34,440 to normal and it's very tough to say to people hey keep going to restaurants you 726 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:34,450 people hey keep going to restaurants you 727 00:17:34,450 --> 00:17:39,090 people hey keep going to restaurants you know go buy new houses ignore that pile 728 00:17:39,090 --> 00:17:39,100 know go buy new houses ignore that pile 729 00:17:39,100 --> 00:17:41,550 know go buy new houses ignore that pile of bodies over in the corner just you 730 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:41,560 of bodies over in the corner just you 731 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,780 of bodies over in the corner just you know we want you to keep spending 732 00:17:42,780 --> 00:17:42,790 know we want you to keep spending 733 00:17:42,790 --> 00:17:44,400 know we want you to keep spending because there's some 734 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:44,410 because there's some 735 00:17:44,410 --> 00:17:47,340 because there's some maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth 736 00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:47,350 maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth 737 00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:50,850 maybe a politician who thinks GDP growth is is what really counts it's very hard 738 00:17:50,850 --> 00:17:50,860 is is what really counts it's very hard 739 00:17:50,860 --> 00:17:52,620 is is what really counts it's very hard to tell people when there's an epidemic 740 00:17:52,620 --> 00:17:52,630 to tell people when there's an epidemic 741 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:55,550 to tell people when there's an epidemic spreading that you know threatens 742 00:17:55,550 --> 00:17:55,560 spreading that you know threatens 743 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,430 spreading that you know threatens particularly their parents or elderly 744 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:59,440 particularly their parents or elderly 745 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,710 particularly their parents or elderly people that they know that they should 746 00:18:01,710 --> 00:18:01,720 people that they know that they should 747 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,960 people that they know that they should go about things knowing that their 748 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:03,970 go about things knowing that their 749 00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:07,320 go about things knowing that their activity is spreading this disease I 750 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:07,330 activity is spreading this disease I 751 00:18:07,330 --> 00:18:09,810 activity is spreading this disease I don't know of any rich countries that 752 00:18:09,810 --> 00:18:09,820 don't know of any rich countries that 753 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:12,030 don't know of any rich countries that have chosen to use that approach it is 754 00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:12,040 have chosen to use that approach it is 755 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,000 have chosen to use that approach it is true if you did that approach over a 756 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:15,010 true if you did that approach over a 757 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:17,940 true if you did that approach over a period of several years and not people 758 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:17,950 period of several years and not people 759 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:19,470 period of several years and not people would be infected you'd have what's 760 00:18:19,470 --> 00:18:19,480 would be infected you'd have what's 761 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,640 would be infected you'd have what's called herd immunity they heard 762 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:20,650 called herd immunity they heard 763 00:18:20,650 --> 00:18:23,010 called herd immunity they heard immunities meaningless until you in fact 764 00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:23,020 immunities meaningless until you in fact 765 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:26,010 immunities meaningless until you in fact over half the population and so you can 766 00:18:26,010 --> 00:18:26,020 over half the population and so you can 767 00:18:26,020 --> 00:18:28,650 over half the population and so you can take you'll overload your medical system 768 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:28,660 take you'll overload your medical system 769 00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:30,270 take you'll overload your medical system so your case fatality rate instead of 770 00:18:30,270 --> 00:18:30,280 so your case fatality rate instead of 771 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,630 so your case fatality rate instead of being 1% will be like 3 4 percent and so 772 00:18:35,630 --> 00:18:35,640 being 1% will be like 3 4 percent and so 773 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,830 being 1% will be like 3 4 percent and so you know the idea it's very 774 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:37,840 you know the idea it's very 775 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,940 you know the idea it's very irresponsible for somebody to suggest we 776 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:41,950 irresponsible for somebody to suggest we 777 00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,740 irresponsible for somebody to suggest we can have the best of both worlds what we 778 00:18:43,740 --> 00:18:43,750 can have the best of both worlds what we 779 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:47,400 can have the best of both worlds what we need is the extreme shutdown to so that 780 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:47,410 need is the extreme shutdown to so that 781 00:18:47,410 --> 00:18:50,630 need is the extreme shutdown to so that in six to ten weeks if things go well 782 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:50,640 in six to ten weeks if things go well 783 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:55,050 in six to ten weeks if things go well then you can start opening back up so 784 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:55,060 then you can start opening back up so 785 00:18:55,060 --> 00:18:56,640 then you can start opening back up so just putting the math together from what 786 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:56,650 just putting the math together from what 787 00:18:56,650 --> 00:18:58,140 just putting the math together from what you just said bill to get to herd 788 00:18:58,140 --> 00:18:58,150 you just said bill to get to herd 789 00:18:58,150 --> 00:19:00,390 you just said bill to get to herd immunity you needed more than half the 790 00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:00,400 immunity you needed more than half the 791 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,400 immunity you needed more than half the people in the country to basically get 792 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:02,410 people in the country to basically get 793 00:19:02,410 --> 00:19:04,350 people in the country to basically get the bug so in the case of the US for 794 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:04,360 the bug so in the case of the US for 795 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:05,700 the bug so in the case of the US for example that'd be 150 million people 796 00:19:05,700 --> 00:19:05,710 example that'd be 150 million people 797 00:19:05,710 --> 00:19:07,770 example that'd be 150 million people there abouts you said that there could 798 00:19:07,770 --> 00:19:07,780 there abouts you said that there could 799 00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:09,660 there abouts you said that there could be that the fatality rate in that 800 00:19:09,660 --> 00:19:09,670 be that the fatality rate in that 801 00:19:09,670 --> 00:19:12,690 be that the fatality rate in that scenario you're talking about four to 802 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:12,700 scenario you're talking about four to 803 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:14,190 scenario you're talking about four to five million people and that in that 804 00:19:14,190 --> 00:19:14,200 five million people and that in that 805 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,290 five million people and that in that potential fatalities I mean it's like 806 00:19:16,290 --> 00:19:16,300 potential fatalities I mean it's like 807 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:19,160 potential fatalities I mean it's like like it thought that's just a horrifying 808 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:19,170 like it thought that's just a horrifying 809 00:19:19,170 --> 00:19:20,790 like it thought that's just a horrifying scenario that no one should be 810 00:19:20,790 --> 00:19:20,800 scenario that no one should be 811 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,250 scenario that no one should be contemplating even one percent of their 812 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:23,260 contemplating even one percent of their 813 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:25,500 contemplating even one percent of their population getting sick they will treat 814 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:25,510 population getting sick they will treat 815 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:29,540 population getting sick they will treat whoever goes for this ignore the disease 816 00:19:29,540 --> 00:19:29,550 whoever goes for this ignore the disease 817 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:31,590 whoever goes for this ignore the disease strategy they will treat them as a 818 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:31,600 strategy they will treat them as a 819 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,080 strategy they will treat them as a pariah state so no none of their people 820 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:34,090 pariah state so no none of their people 821 00:19:34,090 --> 00:19:37,050 pariah state so no none of their people will go in and none of your people will 822 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:37,060 will go in and none of your people will 823 00:19:37,060 --> 00:19:39,570 will go in and none of your people will go into that and so briefly a few 824 00:19:39,570 --> 00:19:39,580 go into that and so briefly a few 825 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:41,760 go into that and so briefly a few countries in Europe that haven't really 826 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:41,770 countries in Europe that haven't really 827 00:19:41,770 --> 00:19:43,230 countries in Europe that haven't really looked at this hard considered okay 828 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:43,240 looked at this hard considered okay 829 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,570 looked at this hard considered okay should be we be the ones who kind of go 830 00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:45,580 should be we be the ones who kind of go 831 00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:48,450 should be we be the ones who kind of go about business as usual it is tempting 832 00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:48,460 about business as usual it is tempting 833 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:50,940 about business as usual it is tempting because if if you got there early South 834 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:50,950 because if if you got there early South 835 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:53,250 because if if you got there early South Korea did not have to do the extreme 836 00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:53,260 Korea did not have to do the extreme 837 00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:55,140 Korea did not have to do the extreme shutdown because they did such a good 838 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:55,150 shutdown because they did such a good 839 00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:57,870 shutdown because they did such a good job on testing and you know 840 00:19:57,870 --> 00:19:57,880 job on testing and you know 841 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,460 job on testing and you know that's why testing and containment mean 842 00:19:59,460 --> 00:19:59,470 that's why testing and containment mean 843 00:19:59,470 --> 00:20:03,320 that's why testing and containment mean to me that the government's not 844 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:03,330 to me that the government's not 845 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:07,650 to me that the government's not allocating the testing to to where it's 846 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:07,660 allocating the testing to to where it's 847 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:10,650 allocating the testing to to where it's needed you know and maybe that'll have 848 00:20:10,650 --> 00:20:10,660 needed you know and maybe that'll have 849 00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:12,150 needed you know and maybe that'll have to happen at the state level because 850 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:12,160 to happen at the state level because 851 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,070 to happen at the state level because it's it's not having at the federal 852 00:20:14,070 --> 00:20:14,080 it's it's not having at the federal 853 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,620 it's it's not having at the federal level but there is there is no middle 854 00:20:16,620 --> 00:20:16,630 level but there is there is no middle 855 00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:20,700 level but there is there is no middle course on this thing it is sad that the 856 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:20,710 course on this thing it is sad that the 857 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:22,680 course on this thing it is sad that the shutdown will be harder for poor 858 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:22,690 shutdown will be harder for poor 859 00:20:22,690 --> 00:20:24,600 shutdown will be harder for poor countries than it is for richer 860 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:24,610 countries than it is for richer 861 00:20:24,610 --> 00:20:25,310 countries than it is for richer countries 862 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:25,320 countries 863 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,720 countries so let's come into that in a minute but 864 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:27,730 so let's come into that in a minute but 865 00:20:27,730 --> 00:20:29,850 so let's come into that in a minute but just it's the one exception I've had the 866 00:20:29,850 --> 00:20:29,860 just it's the one exception I've had the 867 00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:32,250 just it's the one exception I've had the case-mate for is Japan that Japan has 868 00:20:32,250 --> 00:20:32,260 case-mate for is Japan that Japan has 869 00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:35,160 case-mate for is Japan that Japan has not contained it and quite in the same 870 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,170 not contained it and quite in the same 871 00:20:35,170 --> 00:20:37,770 not contained it and quite in the same way that South Korea did but has allowed 872 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:37,780 way that South Korea did but has allowed 873 00:20:37,780 --> 00:20:39,690 way that South Korea did but has allowed people to work it's try to make extreme 874 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:39,700 people to work it's try to make extreme 875 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:42,150 people to work it's try to make extreme measures for protecting the most elderly 876 00:20:42,150 --> 00:20:42,160 measures for protecting the most elderly 877 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,730 measures for protecting the most elderly population but they've they've tried to 878 00:20:44,730 --> 00:20:44,740 population but they've they've tried to 879 00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:48,210 population but they've they've tried to sort of let they try to find a middle of 880 00:20:48,210 --> 00:20:48,220 sort of let they try to find a middle of 881 00:20:48,220 --> 00:20:52,160 sort of let they try to find a middle of scenario haven't they well if you act 882 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:52,170 scenario haven't they well if you act 883 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:56,900 scenario haven't they well if you act when you have you know hundreds of cases 884 00:20:56,900 --> 00:20:56,910 when you have you know hundreds of cases 885 00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:00,810 when you have you know hundreds of cases you may be able to contain it by doing 886 00:21:00,810 --> 00:21:00,820 you may be able to contain it by doing 887 00:21:00,820 --> 00:21:03,120 you may be able to contain it by doing great testing and great contact tracing 888 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:03,130 great testing and great contact tracing 889 00:21:03,130 --> 00:21:05,990 great testing and great contact tracing and restricting foreigners coming in 890 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:06,000 and restricting foreigners coming in 891 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,700 and restricting foreigners coming in without as much damage to our economy 892 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:08,710 without as much damage to our economy 893 00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:13,110 without as much damage to our economy the US has passed this opportunity to 894 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:13,120 the US has passed this opportunity to 895 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:17,220 the US has passed this opportunity to control without shutdown so that the 896 00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:17,230 control without shutdown so that the 897 00:21:17,230 --> 00:21:20,720 control without shutdown so that the worst case of what was happening in 898 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:20,730 worst case of what was happening in 899 00:21:20,730 --> 00:21:23,310 worst case of what was happening in Wuhan in the beginning or in northern 900 00:21:23,310 --> 00:21:23,320 Wuhan in the beginning or in northern 901 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,300 Wuhan in the beginning or in northern Italy you know the last few weeks that 902 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:27,310 Italy you know the last few weeks that 903 00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:31,140 Italy you know the last few weeks that we avoid that but we we did not have 904 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:31,150 we avoid that but we we did not have 905 00:21:31,150 --> 00:21:34,980 we avoid that but we we did not have fast enough to have a an ability to 906 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:34,990 fast enough to have a an ability to 907 00:21:34,990 --> 00:21:37,260 fast enough to have a an ability to avoid the shutdown but then what I don't 908 00:21:37,260 --> 00:21:37,270 avoid the shutdown but then what I don't 909 00:21:37,270 --> 00:21:39,300 avoid the shutdown but then what I don't understand in the case of the US for 910 00:21:39,300 --> 00:21:39,310 understand in the case of the US for 911 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:42,690 understand in the case of the US for example is that if if even if we're 912 00:21:42,690 --> 00:21:42,700 example is that if if even if we're 913 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:45,390 example is that if if even if we're successful in bending the curve and 914 00:21:45,390 --> 00:21:45,400 successful in bending the curve and 915 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,370 successful in bending the curve and reducing the number of new cases from a 916 00:21:47,370 --> 00:21:47,380 reducing the number of new cases from a 917 00:21:47,380 --> 00:21:50,780 reducing the number of new cases from a period of extreme shutdown as it were no 918 00:21:50,780 --> 00:21:50,790 period of extreme shutdown as it were no 919 00:21:50,790 --> 00:21:53,880 period of extreme shutdown as it were no immunity has been built up let's say 920 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:53,890 immunity has been built up let's say 921 00:21:53,890 --> 00:21:55,770 immunity has been built up let's say that there's still no vaccine surely 922 00:21:55,770 --> 00:21:55,780 that there's still no vaccine surely 923 00:21:55,780 --> 00:21:58,020 that there's still no vaccine surely when you lift restrictions and people 924 00:21:58,020 --> 00:21:58,030 when you lift restrictions and people 925 00:21:58,030 --> 00:21:59,460 when you lift restrictions and people start going back to what the whole thing 926 00:21:59,460 --> 00:21:59,470 start going back to what the whole thing 927 00:21:59,470 --> 00:22:01,100 start going back to what the whole thing just blows up again 928 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:01,110 just blows up again 929 00:22:01,110 --> 00:22:05,160 just blows up again the experience that we're seeing in 930 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,170 the experience that we're seeing in 931 00:22:05,170 --> 00:22:10,650 the experience that we're seeing in China and in South Korea is that there 932 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:10,660 China and in South Korea is that there 933 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:13,710 China and in South Korea is that there are not these people are asymptomatic 934 00:22:13,710 --> 00:22:13,720 are not these people are asymptomatic 935 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,050 are not these people are asymptomatic that are causing lots of infections and 936 00:22:16,050 --> 00:22:16,060 that are causing lots of infections and 937 00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:18,240 that are causing lots of infections and that's a parameter that if you build the 938 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,250 that's a parameter that if you build the 939 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:22,560 that's a parameter that if you build the model you have to put in if there's an 940 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:22,570 model you have to put in if there's an 941 00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:24,420 model you have to put in if there's an imperial model that people talk about a 942 00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:24,430 imperial model that people talk about a 943 00:22:24,430 --> 00:22:27,330 imperial model that people talk about a lot which shows that reopening is very 944 00:22:27,330 --> 00:22:27,340 lot which shows that reopening is very 945 00:22:27,340 --> 00:22:31,650 lot which shows that reopening is very hard to do but it the results of that 946 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:31,660 hard to do but it the results of that 947 00:22:31,660 --> 00:22:33,480 hard to do but it the results of that model are not matching what we see in 948 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:33,490 model are not matching what we see in 949 00:22:33,490 --> 00:22:37,350 model are not matching what we see in China and so very likely there aren't as 950 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:37,360 China and so very likely there aren't as 951 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:40,260 China and so very likely there aren't as many of these infecting asymptomatic s' 952 00:22:40,260 --> 00:22:40,270 many of these infecting asymptomatic s' 953 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:42,080 many of these infecting asymptomatic s' and that's what you have to be pragmatic 954 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,090 and that's what you have to be pragmatic 955 00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:44,810 and that's what you have to be pragmatic there's a lot we don't know for example 956 00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:44,820 there's a lot we don't know for example 957 00:22:44,820 --> 00:22:47,370 there's a lot we don't know for example seasonality may help us in the northern 958 00:22:47,370 --> 00:22:47,380 seasonality may help us in the northern 959 00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:50,330 seasonality may help us in the northern hemisphere the force of infection will 960 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:50,340 hemisphere the force of infection will 961 00:22:50,340 --> 00:22:54,270 hemisphere the force of infection will respiratory viruses to some degree they 962 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:54,280 respiratory viruses to some degree they 963 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,480 respiratory viruses to some degree they all are our seasonal we don't know how 964 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:57,490 all are our seasonal we don't know how 965 00:22:57,490 --> 00:23:01,260 all are our seasonal we don't know how seasonal this one is but you know 966 00:23:01,260 --> 00:23:01,270 seasonal this one is but you know 967 00:23:01,270 --> 00:23:03,960 seasonal this one is but you know there's a reasonable chance that the 968 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:03,970 there's a reasonable chance that the 969 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:05,580 there's a reasonable chance that the force of infection will be going down 970 00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:05,590 force of infection will be going down 971 00:23:05,590 --> 00:23:08,820 force of infection will be going down and it's you're testing that always is 972 00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:08,830 and it's you're testing that always is 973 00:23:08,830 --> 00:23:11,010 and it's you're testing that always is telling you oh my gosh do I have to shut 974 00:23:11,010 --> 00:23:11,020 telling you oh my gosh do I have to shut 975 00:23:11,020 --> 00:23:14,430 telling you oh my gosh do I have to shut down more or can I start to open up so 976 00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:14,440 down more or can I start to open up so 977 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,770 down more or can I start to open up so particularly right as you open up that 978 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:16,780 particularly right as you open up that 979 00:23:16,780 --> 00:23:20,040 particularly right as you open up that testing and contact tracing is is saying 980 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:20,050 testing and contact tracing is is saying 981 00:23:20,050 --> 00:23:23,460 testing and contact tracing is is saying to you and I'm you know you can say I'm 982 00:23:23,460 --> 00:23:23,470 to you and I'm you know you can say I'm 983 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:25,680 to you and I'm you know you can say I'm on the more optimistic side that it will 984 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:25,690 on the more optimistic side that it will 985 00:23:25,690 --> 00:23:27,590 on the more optimistic side that it will be possible to do what China's doing 986 00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:27,600 be possible to do what China's doing 987 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,440 be possible to do what China's doing where you know they are starting to go 988 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:31,450 where you know they are starting to go 989 00:23:31,450 --> 00:23:33,930 where you know they are starting to go back to normal and help me understand 990 00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:33,940 back to normal and help me understand 991 00:23:33,940 --> 00:23:36,600 back to normal and help me understand what happened that it's it seems kind of 992 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:36,610 what happened that it's it seems kind of 993 00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:39,060 what happened that it's it seems kind of miraculous to me because they this virus 994 00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:39,070 miraculous to me because they this virus 995 00:23:39,070 --> 00:23:42,570 miraculous to me because they this virus was exploding yes in Wuhan but but 996 00:23:42,570 --> 00:23:42,580 was exploding yes in Wuhan but but 997 00:23:42,580 --> 00:23:44,370 was exploding yes in Wuhan but but people moved from there to many other 998 00:23:44,370 --> 00:23:44,380 people moved from there to many other 999 00:23:44,380 --> 00:23:48,270 people moved from there to many other parts of China how is it possible that 1000 00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:48,280 parts of China how is it possible that 1001 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,060 parts of China how is it possible that that the combination of the shut down in 1002 00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:51,070 that the combination of the shut down in 1003 00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:53,250 that the combination of the shut down in Wuhan and measures elsewhere seem to 1004 00:23:53,250 --> 00:23:53,260 Wuhan and measures elsewhere seem to 1005 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:54,330 Wuhan and measures elsewhere seem to have got to the point where there are 1006 00:23:54,330 --> 00:23:54,340 have got to the point where there are 1007 00:23:54,340 --> 00:23:57,510 have got to the point where there are literally no new cases happening I mean 1008 00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:57,520 literally no new cases happening I mean 1009 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,520 literally no new cases happening I mean to me that implies that literally the 1010 00:23:59,520 --> 00:23:59,530 to me that implies that literally the 1011 00:23:59,530 --> 00:24:03,720 to me that implies that literally the virus is not circulating at all between 1012 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:03,730 virus is not circulating at all between 1013 00:24:03,730 --> 00:24:07,169 virus is not circulating at all between humans in China how on you know there's 1014 00:24:07,169 --> 00:24:07,179 humans in China how on you know there's 1015 00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:08,940 humans in China how on you know there's a few tourists coming in who they deal 1016 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:08,950 a few tourists coming in who they deal 1017 00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:11,610 a few tourists coming in who they deal with but I mean how on earth like is 1018 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:11,620 with but I mean how on earth like is 1019 00:24:11,620 --> 00:24:12,750 with but I mean how on earth like is that is that literally your 1020 00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:12,760 that is that literally your 1021 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,040 that is that literally your interpretation of what happened that 1022 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,050 interpretation of what happened that 1023 00:24:14,050 --> 00:24:16,440 interpretation of what happened that it's no longer second is take a 1024 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:16,450 it's no longer second is take a 1025 00:24:16,450 --> 00:24:19,410 it's no longer second is take a spreadsheet and take a number like for 1026 00:24:19,410 --> 00:24:19,420 spreadsheet and take a number like for 1027 00:24:19,420 --> 00:24:22,200 spreadsheet and take a number like for one person affects four people and say 1028 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,210 one person affects four people and say 1029 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:24,180 one person affects four people and say the cycle you knows every ten 1030 00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:24,190 the cycle you knows every ten 1031 00:24:24,190 --> 00:24:27,090 the cycle you knows every ten days go through you know eight of those 1032 00:24:27,090 --> 00:24:27,100 days go through you know eight of those 1033 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:31,440 days go through you know eight of those cycles and you're getting a big number 1034 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:31,450 cycles and you're getting a big number 1035 00:24:31,450 --> 00:24:34,379 cycles and you're getting a big number you know start with ten thousand and 1036 00:24:34,379 --> 00:24:34,389 you know start with ten thousand and 1037 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,799 you know start with ten thousand and then you know that increase if you take 1038 00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:37,809 then you know that increase if you take 1039 00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:40,590 then you know that increase if you take the number point four instead that is 1040 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:40,600 the number point four instead that is 1041 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,539 the number point four instead that is the average case in facts point four 1042 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:42,549 the average case in facts point four 1043 00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:46,499 the average case in facts point four people which then look at what happens 1044 00:24:46,499 --> 00:24:46,509 people which then look at what happens 1045 00:24:46,509 --> 00:24:49,529 people which then look at what happens to that number as you go out it drops to 1046 00:24:49,529 --> 00:24:49,539 to that number as you go out it drops to 1047 00:24:49,539 --> 00:24:52,799 to that number as you go out it drops to zero and so things that are exponential 1048 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:52,809 zero and so things that are exponential 1049 00:24:52,809 --> 00:24:55,830 zero and so things that are exponential are very very dramatic when they're 1050 00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:55,840 are very very dramatic when they're 1051 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,700 are very very dramatic when they're above one they are growing rapidly when 1052 00:24:59,700 --> 00:24:59,710 above one they are growing rapidly when 1053 00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:01,619 above one they are growing rapidly when they're below one they're shrinking 1054 00:25:01,619 --> 00:25:01,629 they're below one they're shrinking 1055 00:25:01,629 --> 00:25:05,460 they're below one they're shrinking rapidly and so the isolation in China 1056 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:05,470 rapidly and so the isolation in China 1057 00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:09,240 rapidly and so the isolation in China drove that reproductive number to well 1058 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,250 drove that reproductive number to well 1059 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:13,399 drove that reproductive number to well below zero and to locally below one 1060 00:25:13,399 --> 00:25:13,409 below zero and to locally below one 1061 00:25:13,409 --> 00:25:18,269 below zero and to locally below one below one sorry and it's a you know 1062 00:25:18,269 --> 00:25:18,279 below one sorry and it's a you know 1063 00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,710 below one sorry and it's a you know that's that quarantine that's you know 1064 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:21,720 that's that quarantine that's you know 1065 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,299 that's that quarantine that's you know quarantine comes from forty days which 1066 00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:24,309 quarantine comes from forty days which 1067 00:25:24,309 --> 00:25:25,470 quarantine comes from forty days which is what they thought would help for 1068 00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:25,480 is what they thought would help for 1069 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,009 is what they thought would help for black black plague that is our primary 1070 00:25:29,009 --> 00:25:29,019 black black plague that is our primary 1071 00:25:29,019 --> 00:25:31,680 black black plague that is our primary technique thank God we have testing if 1072 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:31,690 technique thank God we have testing if 1073 00:25:31,690 --> 00:25:35,700 technique thank God we have testing if we use it properly we are you know doing 1074 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:35,710 we use it properly we are you know doing 1075 00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:37,529 we use it properly we are you know doing therapeutics which will help with the 1076 00:25:37,529 --> 00:25:37,539 therapeutics which will help with the 1077 00:25:37,539 --> 00:25:39,629 therapeutics which will help with the death rate but in terms of the keeping 1078 00:25:39,629 --> 00:25:39,639 death rate but in terms of the keeping 1079 00:25:39,639 --> 00:25:41,820 death rate but in terms of the keeping infections will one percent of the 1080 00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:41,830 infections will one percent of the 1081 00:25:41,830 --> 00:25:44,249 infections will one percent of the population it's it's really all depends 1082 00:25:44,249 --> 00:25:44,259 population it's it's really all depends 1083 00:25:44,259 --> 00:25:46,200 population it's it's really all depends just on the two things isolation and 1084 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,210 just on the two things isolation and 1085 00:25:46,210 --> 00:25:49,499 just on the two things isolation and testing so it's a question for my 1086 00:25:49,499 --> 00:25:49,509 testing so it's a question for my 1087 00:25:49,509 --> 00:25:51,360 testing so it's a question for my twitter feed this morning for you bill 1088 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:51,370 twitter feed this morning for you bill 1089 00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:54,720 twitter feed this morning for you bill but if you were president for a month in 1090 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:54,730 but if you were president for a month in 1091 00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:57,840 but if you were president for a month in the US what would be the the top two or 1092 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:57,850 the US what would be the the top two or 1093 00:25:57,850 --> 00:26:01,409 the US what would be the the top two or three things you would do well the clear 1094 00:26:01,409 --> 00:26:01,419 three things you would do well the clear 1095 00:26:01,419 --> 00:26:04,080 three things you would do well the clear message that we have no choice to 1096 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:04,090 message that we have no choice to 1097 00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:07,649 message that we have no choice to maintain this isolation and that's going 1098 00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:07,659 maintain this isolation and that's going 1099 00:26:07,659 --> 00:26:11,490 maintain this isolation and that's going to keep going for a period of time you 1100 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:11,500 to keep going for a period of time you 1101 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:13,860 to keep going for a period of time you know probably in the Chinese case it was 1102 00:26:13,860 --> 00:26:13,870 know probably in the Chinese case it was 1103 00:26:13,870 --> 00:26:16,860 know probably in the Chinese case it was like six weeks so we have to prepare 1104 00:26:16,860 --> 00:26:16,870 like six weeks so we have to prepare 1105 00:26:16,870 --> 00:26:18,299 like six weeks so we have to prepare ourselves for that and do it very well 1106 00:26:18,299 --> 00:26:18,309 ourselves for that and do it very well 1107 00:26:18,309 --> 00:26:23,129 ourselves for that and do it very well and then use the testing and every week 1108 00:26:23,129 --> 00:26:23,139 and then use the testing and every week 1109 00:26:23,139 --> 00:26:26,190 and then use the testing and every week talk about what's going on with that if 1110 00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:26,200 talk about what's going on with that if 1111 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,649 talk about what's going on with that if you're doing isolation well within about 1112 00:26:28,649 --> 00:26:28,659 you're doing isolation well within about 1113 00:26:28,659 --> 00:26:31,740 you're doing isolation well within about twenty days you'll see those numbers 1114 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:31,750 twenty days you'll see those numbers 1115 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,830 twenty days you'll see those numbers really change you know instead of this 1116 00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:34,840 really change you know instead of this 1117 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,380 really change you know instead of this you'll see this and 1118 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:37,390 you'll see this and 1119 00:26:37,390 --> 00:26:40,049 you'll see this and is a sign that you're on your way it now 1120 00:26:40,049 --> 00:26:40,059 is a sign that you're on your way it now 1121 00:26:40,059 --> 00:26:43,380 is a sign that you're on your way it now you have to stay to get those more 1122 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:43,390 you have to stay to get those more 1123 00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:45,780 you have to stay to get those more generations that are you know point four 1124 00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:45,790 generations that are you know point four 1125 00:26:45,790 --> 00:26:48,870 generations that are you know point four infections per previous infection you 1126 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:48,880 infections per previous infection you 1127 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,460 infections per previous infection you have to maintain it for a number of 1128 00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:50,470 have to maintain it for a number of 1129 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:53,430 have to maintain it for a number of weeks there and you know so this is not 1130 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:53,440 weeks there and you know so this is not 1131 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,549 weeks there and you know so this is not gonna be easy we need a clear message 1132 00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:56,559 gonna be easy we need a clear message 1133 00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:59,789 gonna be easy we need a clear message about that it is really tragic that the 1134 00:26:59,789 --> 00:26:59,799 about that it is really tragic that the 1135 00:26:59,799 --> 00:27:01,320 about that it is really tragic that the economic effects of this are very 1136 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:01,330 economic effects of this are very 1137 00:27:01,330 --> 00:27:04,890 economic effects of this are very dramatic I mean nothing like this has 1138 00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:04,900 dramatic I mean nothing like this has 1139 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,860 dramatic I mean nothing like this has ever happened to the economy in our our 1140 00:27:07,860 --> 00:27:07,870 ever happened to the economy in our our 1141 00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:10,590 ever happened to the economy in our our lifetimes but money you know bringing 1142 00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:10,600 lifetimes but money you know bringing 1143 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,250 lifetimes but money you know bringing the economy back on doing money that's 1144 00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:13,260 the economy back on doing money that's 1145 00:27:13,260 --> 00:27:16,740 the economy back on doing money that's more of a reversible thing than bringing 1146 00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:16,750 more of a reversible thing than bringing 1147 00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:20,400 more of a reversible thing than bringing people back to life and so we're going 1148 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:20,410 people back to life and so we're going 1149 00:27:20,410 --> 00:27:22,799 people back to life and so we're going to take the pain in the economic 1150 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:22,809 to take the pain in the economic 1151 00:27:22,809 --> 00:27:26,100 to take the pain in the economic dimension huge pain in order to minimize 1152 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:26,110 dimension huge pain in order to minimize 1153 00:27:26,110 --> 00:27:28,620 dimension huge pain in order to minimize the pain in the disease and death 1154 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:28,630 the pain in the disease and death 1155 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:33,150 the pain in the disease and death dimension Whitney we have a lot of other 1156 00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:33,160 dimension Whitney we have a lot of other 1157 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,830 dimension Whitney we have a lot of other questions coming in one of the ones that 1158 00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:34,840 questions coming in one of the ones that 1159 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,960 questions coming in one of the ones that we've been seeing is this a question 1160 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:36,970 we've been seeing is this a question 1161 00:27:36,970 --> 00:27:38,730 we've been seeing is this a question about what tools are available for 1162 00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:38,740 about what tools are available for 1163 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:41,100 about what tools are available for countries that maybe don't have the 1164 00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:41,110 countries that maybe don't have the 1165 00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:42,840 countries that maybe don't have the luxury of being able to social distance 1166 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:42,850 luxury of being able to social distance 1167 00:27:42,850 --> 00:27:45,150 luxury of being able to social distance don't have great health systems in place 1168 00:27:45,150 --> 00:27:45,160 don't have great health systems in place 1169 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,380 don't have great health systems in place how should they be handling this virus 1170 00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:48,390 how should they be handling this virus 1171 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:52,409 how should they be handling this virus yeah I would say that if the rich 1172 00:27:52,409 --> 00:27:52,419 yeah I would say that if the rich 1173 00:27:52,419 --> 00:27:54,539 yeah I would say that if the rich countries really do their job well by 1174 00:27:54,539 --> 00:27:54,549 countries really do their job well by 1175 00:27:54,549 --> 00:28:00,330 countries really do their job well by the summer they'll be like China is are 1176 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:00,340 the summer they'll be like China is are 1177 00:28:00,340 --> 00:28:01,680 the summer they'll be like China is are some of the other countries that 1178 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:01,690 some of the other countries that 1179 00:28:01,690 --> 00:28:04,320 some of the other countries that responded early but in the developing 1180 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:04,330 responded early but in the developing 1181 00:28:04,330 --> 00:28:07,590 responded early but in the developing countries particularly in the southern 1182 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:07,600 countries particularly in the southern 1183 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,520 countries particularly in the southern hemisphere this seasonality is is large 1184 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:10,530 hemisphere this seasonality is is large 1185 00:28:10,530 --> 00:28:14,520 hemisphere this seasonality is is large the as you say the ability to isolate 1186 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:14,530 the as you say the ability to isolate 1187 00:28:14,530 --> 00:28:16,320 the as you say the ability to isolate you know when you go out to get your 1188 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,330 you know when you go out to get your 1189 00:28:16,330 --> 00:28:19,560 you know when you go out to get your food every day you know you have to earn 1190 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:19,570 food every day you know you have to earn 1191 00:28:19,570 --> 00:28:21,990 food every day you know you have to earn your wage when you live in a Aslam where 1192 00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:22,000 your wage when you live in a Aslam where 1193 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,880 your wage when you live in a Aslam where you're very near by each other it's very 1194 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:23,890 you're very near by each other it's very 1195 00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:27,000 you're very near by each other it's very hard to do as you move down the income 1196 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,010 hard to do as you move down the income 1197 00:28:27,010 --> 00:28:31,289 hard to do as you move down the income ladder then it is for a country like 1198 00:28:31,289 --> 00:28:31,299 ladder then it is for a country like 1199 00:28:31,299 --> 00:28:34,140 ladder then it is for a country like like the United States and so we should 1200 00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:34,150 like the United States and so we should 1201 00:28:34,150 --> 00:28:36,480 like the United States and so we should all you know accelerate the vaccine 1202 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,490 all you know accelerate the vaccine 1203 00:28:36,490 --> 00:28:39,810 all you know accelerate the vaccine which eventually will come and you know 1204 00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:39,820 which eventually will come and you know 1205 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:41,490 which eventually will come and you know people are being responsible to say that 1206 00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:41,500 people are being responsible to say that 1207 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,570 people are being responsible to say that you know that's going to take 18 months 1208 00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:44,580 you know that's going to take 18 months 1209 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:49,010 you know that's going to take 18 months and there's a lot of those being pursued 1210 00:28:49,010 --> 00:28:49,020 and there's a lot of those being pursued 1211 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:51,160 and there's a lot of those being pursued you know I'm talking 1212 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,170 you know I'm talking 1213 00:28:51,170 --> 00:28:52,300 you know I'm talking with South Berkeley who you're gonna 1214 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:52,310 with South Berkeley who you're gonna 1215 00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:56,410 with South Berkeley who you're gonna have later this week who can talk a lot 1216 00:28:56,410 --> 00:28:56,420 have later this week who can talk a lot 1217 00:28:56,420 --> 00:28:59,550 have later this week who can talk a lot about the vaccine front because he's 1218 00:28:59,550 --> 00:28:59,560 about the vaccine front because he's 1219 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,780 about the vaccine front because he's definitely at the center of that at 1220 00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:01,790 definitely at the center of that at 1221 00:29:01,790 --> 00:29:04,930 definitely at the center of that at being the head of of Gavi we do need to 1222 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:04,940 being the head of of Gavi we do need to 1223 00:29:04,940 --> 00:29:07,540 being the head of of Gavi we do need to get really cheap testing out to these 1224 00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:07,550 get really cheap testing out to these 1225 00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:10,060 get really cheap testing out to these countries and we need to get 1226 00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:10,070 countries and we need to get 1227 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:12,190 countries and we need to get therapeutics so you don't need to put 5% 1228 00:29:12,190 --> 00:29:12,200 therapeutics so you don't need to put 5% 1229 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,890 therapeutics so you don't need to put 5% of people on respirators because even if 1230 00:29:14,890 --> 00:29:14,900 of people on respirators because even if 1231 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:16,360 of people on respirators because even if they had the equipment they don't have 1232 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:16,370 they had the equipment they don't have 1233 00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:17,980 they had the equipment they don't have the personnel they just don't have the 1234 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:17,990 the personnel they just don't have the 1235 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:21,730 the personnel they just don't have the beds the capacity and so the only good 1236 00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:21,740 beds the capacity and so the only good 1237 00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:24,220 beds the capacity and so the only good news is that the rich countries have 1238 00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:24,230 news is that the rich countries have 1239 00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:28,200 news is that the rich countries have this and so they will be learning about 1240 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,210 this and so they will be learning about 1241 00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:31,660 this and so they will be learning about testing therapeutics and funding the 1242 00:29:31,660 --> 00:29:31,670 testing therapeutics and funding the 1243 00:29:31,670 --> 00:29:34,600 testing therapeutics and funding the vaccines for the entire world to try and 1244 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:34,610 vaccines for the entire world to try and 1245 00:29:34,610 --> 00:29:37,660 vaccines for the entire world to try and minimize the the damage in developing 1246 00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:37,670 minimize the the damage in developing 1247 00:29:37,670 --> 00:29:41,560 minimize the the damage in developing countries great I'll be back later with 1248 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:41,570 countries great I'll be back later with 1249 00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:44,290 countries great I'll be back later with more questions yeah bill you mentioned 1250 00:29:44,290 --> 00:29:44,300 more questions yeah bill you mentioned 1251 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,770 more questions yeah bill you mentioned therapeutics there what is looking 1252 00:29:47,770 --> 00:29:47,780 therapeutics there what is looking 1253 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:50,340 therapeutics there what is looking promising is anything looking promising 1254 00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:50,350 promising is anything looking promising 1255 00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:53,710 promising is anything looking promising yeah so there's quite a range of things 1256 00:29:53,710 --> 00:29:53,720 yeah so there's quite a range of things 1257 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,590 yeah so there's quite a range of things going on there's a few that get 1258 00:29:56,590 --> 00:29:56,600 going on there's a few that get 1259 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,340 going on there's a few that get mentioned blot REM sabadie r 1260 00:29:59,340 --> 00:29:59,350 mentioned blot REM sabadie r 1261 00:29:59,350 --> 00:30:02,310 mentioned blot REM sabadie r hydrochloric Anisa through myosin and 1262 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:02,320 hydrochloric Anisa through myosin and 1263 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,200 hydrochloric Anisa through myosin and the date is still a bit confusing but 1264 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,210 the date is still a bit confusing but 1265 00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:08,500 the date is still a bit confusing but there's some positive data on those rm7 1266 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:08,510 there's some positive data on those rm7 1267 00:30:08,510 --> 00:30:12,280 there's some positive data on those rm7 here is a five-day IV infusion and 1268 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,290 here is a five-day IV infusion and 1269 00:30:12,290 --> 00:30:14,950 here is a five-day IV infusion and actually kind of hard to manufacturer so 1270 00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:14,960 actually kind of hard to manufacturer so 1271 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,870 actually kind of hard to manufacturer so people are looking at how that can be 1272 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:16,880 people are looking at how that can be 1273 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,590 people are looking at how that can be improved the hydrochloric in looks like 1274 00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:20,600 improved the hydrochloric in looks like 1275 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,840 improved the hydrochloric in looks like it works somewhat if you get an early 1276 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:22,850 it works somewhat if you get an early 1277 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:25,720 it works somewhat if you get an early there are a huge list of compounds 1278 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:25,730 there are a huge list of compounds 1279 00:30:25,730 --> 00:30:28,750 there are a huge list of compounds including antibodies antiviral drugs and 1280 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:28,760 including antibodies antiviral drugs and 1281 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,870 including antibodies antiviral drugs and so the Gates Foundation and Wellcome 1282 00:30:31,870 --> 00:30:31,880 so the Gates Foundation and Wellcome 1283 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,560 so the Gates Foundation and Wellcome Trust would support from MasterCard now 1284 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:35,570 Trust would support from MasterCard now 1285 00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:38,010 Trust would support from MasterCard now others created this therapeutics 1286 00:30:38,010 --> 00:30:38,020 others created this therapeutics 1287 00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:41,470 others created this therapeutics accelerator to really triage out you 1288 00:30:41,470 --> 00:30:41,480 accelerator to really triage out you 1289 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,060 accelerator to really triage out you have hundreds of people showing up and 1290 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:43,070 have hundreds of people showing up and 1291 00:30:43,070 --> 00:30:45,550 have hundreds of people showing up and saying trying this try that so we look 1292 00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:45,560 saying trying this try that so we look 1293 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,520 saying trying this try that so we look at lab assays animal models and so we 1294 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,530 at lab assays animal models and so we 1295 00:30:48,530 --> 00:30:50,080 at lab assays animal models and so we understand which things should be 1296 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:50,090 understand which things should be 1297 00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:52,930 understand which things should be prioritized for these very quick human 1298 00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:52,940 prioritized for these very quick human 1299 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:55,390 prioritized for these very quick human trials that need to be done all over the 1300 00:30:55,390 --> 00:30:55,400 trials that need to be done all over the 1301 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,510 trials that need to be done all over the world and so the coordination on that is 1302 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:57,520 world and so the coordination on that is 1303 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,800 world and so the coordination on that is very complex globally but I think you 1304 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:02,810 very complex globally but I think you 1305 00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:04,570 very complex globally but I think you know out of the top 20 or 1306 00:31:04,570 --> 00:31:04,580 know out of the top 20 or 1307 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:07,090 know out of the top 20 or so candidates probably three or four of 1308 00:31:07,090 --> 00:31:07,100 so candidates probably three or four of 1309 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,490 so candidates probably three or four of them will work out you know at different 1310 00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:09,500 them will work out you know at different 1311 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,269 them will work out you know at different stages of the disease to reduce the 1312 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:13,279 stages of the disease to reduce the 1313 00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:14,620 stages of the disease to reduce the respiratory distress 1314 00:31:14,620 --> 00:31:14,630 respiratory distress 1315 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:17,110 respiratory distress I heard you mention that one possibility 1316 00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:17,120 I heard you mention that one possibility 1317 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,769 I heard you mention that one possibility might be treatments from the serum the 1318 00:31:20,769 --> 00:31:20,779 might be treatments from the serum the 1319 00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:24,039 might be treatments from the serum the blood serum of people who had had the 1320 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:24,049 blood serum of people who had had the 1321 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:26,350 blood serum of people who had had the disease and recovered so I guess they're 1322 00:31:26,350 --> 00:31:26,360 disease and recovered so I guess they're 1323 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,789 disease and recovered so I guess they're carrying antibodies talk a bit about 1324 00:31:27,789 --> 00:31:27,799 carrying antibodies talk a bit about 1325 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,580 carrying antibodies talk a bit about that about how that could work and what 1326 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:30,590 that about how that could work and what 1327 00:31:30,590 --> 00:31:33,519 that about how that could work and what it would take to accelerate that yeah 1328 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:33,529 it would take to accelerate that yeah 1329 00:31:33,529 --> 00:31:36,210 it would take to accelerate that yeah this has always been discussed is how 1330 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:36,220 this has always been discussed is how 1331 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:39,009 this has always been discussed is how could you pull that off so people who 1332 00:31:39,009 --> 00:31:39,019 could you pull that off so people who 1333 00:31:39,019 --> 00:31:44,500 could you pull that off so people who are recovered it appears have really 1334 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:44,510 are recovered it appears have really 1335 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:47,049 are recovered it appears have really effective antibodies in their blood so 1336 00:31:47,049 --> 00:31:47,059 effective antibodies in their blood so 1337 00:31:47,059 --> 00:31:49,750 effective antibodies in their blood so you could go transfuse them and only 1338 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:49,760 you could go transfuse them and only 1339 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,720 you could go transfuse them and only take out the the white cells the immune 1340 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:52,730 take out the the white cells the immune 1341 00:31:52,730 --> 00:31:56,620 take out the the white cells the immune cells and then the question is okay how 1342 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:56,630 cells and then the question is okay how 1343 00:31:56,630 --> 00:31:58,899 cells and then the question is okay how many patients worth of material could 1344 00:31:58,899 --> 00:31:58,909 many patients worth of material could 1345 00:31:58,909 --> 00:32:00,399 many patients worth of material could you get you know if you have that 1346 00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:00,409 you get you know if you have that 1347 00:32:00,409 --> 00:32:03,460 you get you know if you have that recovered person come in say once a week 1348 00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:03,470 recovered person come in say once a week 1349 00:32:03,470 --> 00:32:06,009 recovered person come in say once a week do you get enough for two people or five 1350 00:32:06,009 --> 00:32:06,019 do you get enough for two people or five 1351 00:32:06,019 --> 00:32:08,440 do you get enough for two people or five people then logistically you have to 1352 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,450 people then logistically you have to 1353 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:11,860 people then logistically you have to take that and get it to where that need 1354 00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:11,870 take that and get it to where that need 1355 00:32:11,870 --> 00:32:14,590 take that and get it to where that need is and so it's it's fairly complicated 1356 00:32:14,590 --> 00:32:14,600 is and so it's it's fairly complicated 1357 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,500 is and so it's it's fairly complicated if you know compared to a drug that we 1358 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:17,510 if you know compared to a drug that we 1359 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:18,779 if you know compared to a drug that we can make and high-volume 1360 00:32:18,779 --> 00:32:18,789 can make and high-volume 1361 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:22,180 can make and high-volume you know the cost of taking it out and 1362 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:22,190 you know the cost of taking it out and 1363 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:25,990 you know the cost of taking it out and putting it back in probably doesn't 1364 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:26,000 putting it back in probably doesn't 1365 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,120 putting it back in probably doesn't scale as well but there's what there is 1366 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:28,130 scale as well but there's what there is 1367 00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:31,180 scale as well but there's what there is work being done on this it you know we 1368 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:31,190 work being done on this it you know we 1369 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:32,500 work being done on this it you know we actually started with the bowl 1370 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:32,510 actually started with the bowl 1371 00:32:32,510 --> 00:32:36,240 actually started with the bowl unfortunately it got done before it was 1372 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,250 unfortunately it got done before it was 1373 00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:41,830 unfortunately it got done before it was needed so that is being pursued and 1374 00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:41,840 needed so that is being pursued and 1375 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,470 needed so that is being pursued and it'll work to some degree but it'll be 1376 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:44,480 it'll work to some degree but it'll be 1377 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,610 it'll work to some degree but it'll be hard to to scale the numbers so it's 1378 00:32:48,610 --> 00:32:48,620 hard to to scale the numbers so it's 1379 00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:50,830 hard to to scale the numbers so it's almost like when you when you talk about 1380 00:32:50,830 --> 00:32:50,840 almost like when you when you talk about 1381 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,539 almost like when you when you talk about the need to accelerate testing the 1382 00:32:52,539 --> 00:32:52,549 the need to accelerate testing the 1383 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:54,100 the need to accelerate testing the immediate need is for testing for the 1384 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:54,110 immediate need is for testing for the 1385 00:32:54,110 --> 00:32:56,620 immediate need is for testing for the virus but is it possible that in a few 1386 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:56,630 virus but is it possible that in a few 1387 00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:57,909 virus but is it possible that in a few months time that there's been me this 1388 00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:57,919 months time that there's been me this 1389 00:32:57,919 --> 00:32:59,470 months time that there's been me this growing need to test for these 1390 00:32:59,470 --> 00:32:59,480 growing need to test for these 1391 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,930 growing need to test for these antibodies and people - I need to see if 1392 00:33:01,930 --> 00:33:01,940 antibodies and people - I need to see if 1393 00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:04,629 antibodies and people - I need to see if someone had the disease and recovered 1394 00:33:04,629 --> 00:33:04,639 someone had the disease and recovered 1395 00:33:04,639 --> 00:33:05,799 someone had the disease and recovered maybe they didn't even know they they 1396 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:05,809 maybe they didn't even know they they 1397 00:33:05,809 --> 00:33:07,960 maybe they didn't even know they they had it because you could picture this 1398 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:07,970 had it because you could picture this 1399 00:33:07,970 --> 00:33:11,110 had it because you could picture this growing worldwide force of heroes let's 1400 00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:11,120 growing worldwide force of heroes let's 1401 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,639 growing worldwide force of heroes let's call them heroes who've been through 1402 00:33:12,639 --> 00:33:12,649 call them heroes who've been through 1403 00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:14,980 call them heroes who've been through this experience and have a lot to offer 1404 00:33:14,980 --> 00:33:14,990 this experience and have a lot to offer 1405 00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:16,659 this experience and have a lot to offer the world maybe maybe they can offer you 1406 00:33:16,659 --> 00:33:16,669 the world maybe maybe they can offer you 1407 00:33:16,669 --> 00:33:18,280 the world maybe maybe they can offer you know like blood blood donations here 1408 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,290 know like blood blood donations here 1409 00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:21,370 know like blood blood donations here nation but also other tasks like if 1410 00:33:21,370 --> 00:33:21,380 nation but also other tasks like if 1411 00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:22,990 nation but also other tasks like if you've got overwhelmed health care 1412 00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:23,000 you've got overwhelmed health care 1413 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,730 you've got overwhelmed health care systems presumably there are kind of 1414 00:33:24,730 --> 00:33:24,740 systems presumably there are kind of 1415 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:27,730 systems presumably there are kind of community health worker type tasks that 1416 00:33:27,730 --> 00:33:27,740 community health worker type tasks that 1417 00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:29,710 community health worker type tasks that people could be trained to do to relieve 1418 00:33:29,710 --> 00:33:29,720 people could be trained to do to relieve 1419 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,180 people could be trained to do to relieve the pressure that if we knew that they 1420 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:31,190 the pressure that if we knew that they 1421 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:35,410 the pressure that if we knew that they were as effectively immune yes until we 1422 00:33:35,410 --> 00:33:35,420 were as effectively immune yes until we 1423 00:33:35,420 --> 00:33:38,800 were as effectively immune yes until we came up with the South swab and showed 1424 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:38,810 came up with the South swab and showed 1425 00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:41,200 came up with the South swab and showed FDA that that's equivalent we were 1426 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,210 FDA that that's equivalent we were 1427 00:33:41,210 --> 00:33:43,000 FDA that that's equivalent we were thinking the people who might be able to 1428 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,010 thinking the people who might be able to 1429 00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:45,370 thinking the people who might be able to man those kiosks would be the recovered 1430 00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:45,380 man those kiosks would be the recovered 1431 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:47,500 man those kiosks would be the recovered patients now we don't want to have a lot 1432 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:47,510 patients now we don't want to have a lot 1433 00:33:47,510 --> 00:33:49,390 patients now we don't want to have a lot of recovered people you know to be clear 1434 00:33:49,390 --> 00:33:49,400 of recovered people you know to be clear 1435 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,410 of recovered people you know to be clear we're trying through the shutdown in the 1436 00:33:53,410 --> 00:33:53,420 we're trying through the shutdown in the 1437 00:33:53,420 --> 00:33:57,130 we're trying through the shutdown in the United States to not get to 1% of the 1438 00:33:57,130 --> 00:33:57,140 United States to not get to 1% of the 1439 00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:59,410 United States to not get to 1% of the population infected we're well below 1440 00:33:59,410 --> 00:33:59,420 population infected we're well below 1441 00:33:59,420 --> 00:34:02,260 population infected we're well below that today but with exponentiation you 1442 00:34:02,260 --> 00:34:02,270 that today but with exponentiation you 1443 00:34:02,270 --> 00:34:05,260 that today but with exponentiation you know you could get past that about 3 1444 00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:05,270 know you could get past that about 3 1445 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:08,380 know you could get past that about 3 million i'm i believe we will be able to 1446 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:08,390 million i'm i believe we will be able to 1447 00:34:08,390 --> 00:34:13,150 million i'm i believe we will be able to avoid that with the having this economic 1448 00:34:13,150 --> 00:34:13,160 avoid that with the having this economic 1449 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,700 avoid that with the having this economic pain eventually what we'll have to have 1450 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:15,710 pain eventually what we'll have to have 1451 00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:18,100 pain eventually what we'll have to have a certificates of who's a recovered 1452 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:18,110 a certificates of who's a recovered 1453 00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:20,409 a certificates of who's a recovered person who's a vaccinated person because 1454 00:34:20,409 --> 00:34:20,419 person who's a vaccinated person because 1455 00:34:20,419 --> 00:34:23,200 person who's a vaccinated person because you don't want people moving around the 1456 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,210 you don't want people moving around the 1457 00:34:23,210 --> 00:34:25,030 you don't want people moving around the world where you'll have some countries 1458 00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:25,040 world where you'll have some countries 1459 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,159 world where you'll have some countries that won't have it under control sadly 1460 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:27,169 that won't have it under control sadly 1461 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:29,770 that won't have it under control sadly you don't want to completely block off 1462 00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:29,780 you don't want to completely block off 1463 00:34:29,780 --> 00:34:33,820 you don't want to completely block off the ability for those you know people to 1464 00:34:33,820 --> 00:34:33,830 the ability for those you know people to 1465 00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:35,380 the ability for those you know people to go there and come back and move around 1466 00:34:35,380 --> 00:34:35,390 go there and come back and move around 1467 00:34:35,390 --> 00:34:37,690 go there and come back and move around bill is your foundation helping to 1468 00:34:37,690 --> 00:34:37,700 bill is your foundation helping to 1469 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,610 bill is your foundation helping to accelerate the manufacture of these self 1470 00:34:39,610 --> 00:34:39,620 accelerate the manufacture of these self 1471 00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,350 accelerate the manufacture of these self tests what are the prospects for really 1472 00:34:41,350 --> 00:34:41,360 tests what are the prospects for really 1473 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,150 tests what are the prospects for really seeing scale and some of this testing 1474 00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:43,160 seeing scale and some of this testing 1475 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,820 seeing scale and some of this testing soon not just a new s but that but 1476 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:45,830 soon not just a new s but that but 1477 00:34:45,830 --> 00:34:48,580 soon not just a new s but that but globally yeah our foundation we'd been 1478 00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:48,590 globally yeah our foundation we'd been 1479 00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:50,350 globally yeah our foundation we'd been funding a thing called the flu study to 1480 00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:50,360 funding a thing called the flu study to 1481 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,300 funding a thing called the flu study to really understand how respiratory 1482 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:52,310 really understand how respiratory 1483 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:54,190 really understand how respiratory viruses spread it's amazing how little 1484 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:54,200 viruses spread it's amazing how little 1485 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,700 viruses spread it's amazing how little was understood about how important 1486 00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:57,710 was understood about how important 1487 00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:59,950 was understood about how important schools are different age groups 1488 00:34:59,950 --> 00:34:59,960 schools are different age groups 1489 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,590 schools are different age groups different types of interaction and that 1490 00:35:02,590 --> 00:35:02,600 different types of interaction and that 1491 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,990 different types of interaction and that gave us an experience in fact that flu 1492 00:35:04,990 --> 00:35:05,000 gave us an experience in fact that flu 1493 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,420 gave us an experience in fact that flu study actually was the first time corona 1494 00:35:07,420 --> 00:35:07,430 study actually was the first time corona 1495 00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:09,790 study actually was the first time corona virus was found in the community because 1496 00:35:09,790 --> 00:35:09,800 virus was found in the community because 1497 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440 virus was found in the community because the government was still saying you only 1498 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:11,450 the government was still saying you only 1499 00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:13,870 the government was still saying you only test people who come from china but we 1500 00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:13,880 test people who come from china but we 1501 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,170 test people who come from china but we ran into people who had chronic virus 1502 00:35:17,170 --> 00:35:17,180 ran into people who had chronic virus 1503 00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:20,290 ran into people who had chronic virus who weren't hadn't been travelers so you 1504 00:35:20,290 --> 00:35:20,300 who weren't hadn't been travelers so you 1505 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:22,150 who weren't hadn't been travelers so you know that was like an early warning sign 1506 00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:22,160 know that was like an early warning sign 1507 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,490 know that was like an early warning sign even though the regulation said you 1508 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:24,500 even though the regulation said you 1509 00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:28,440 even though the regulation said you weren't supposed to even look at that so 1510 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,450 weren't supposed to even look at that so 1511 00:35:28,450 --> 00:35:31,010 weren't supposed to even look at that so yeah the foundation is 1512 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:31,020 yeah the foundation is 1513 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:33,380 yeah the foundation is working with all the private sector 1514 00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:33,390 working with all the private sector 1515 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:35,240 working with all the private sector people the Diagnostics people on this 1516 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:35,250 people the Diagnostics people on this 1517 00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:39,070 people the Diagnostics people on this testing piece the now that we can do the 1518 00:35:39,070 --> 00:35:39,080 testing piece the now that we can do the 1519 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,280 testing piece the now that we can do the self swab those swabs are very easy to 1520 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,290 self swab those swabs are very easy to 1521 00:35:43,290 --> 00:35:45,020 self swab those swabs are very easy to manufacture the one where you had to 1522 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:45,030 manufacture the one where you had to 1523 00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:47,600 manufacture the one where you had to jamming into the throat deep turbinate 1524 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:47,610 jamming into the throat deep turbinate 1525 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:50,810 jamming into the throat deep turbinate that was getting into short supply so 1526 00:35:50,810 --> 00:35:50,820 that was getting into short supply so 1527 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:53,600 that was getting into short supply so the swab you know should not be limiting 1528 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:53,610 the swab you know should not be limiting 1529 00:35:53,610 --> 00:35:56,540 the swab you know should not be limiting neither should the the various chemicals 1530 00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:56,550 neither should the the various chemicals 1531 00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:59,900 neither should the the various chemicals that help run the the PCR machine so we 1532 00:35:59,900 --> 00:35:59,910 that help run the the PCR machine so we 1533 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:02,330 that help run the the PCR machine so we we should be able to get to a South 1534 00:36:02,330 --> 00:36:02,340 we should be able to get to a South 1535 00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:05,240 we should be able to get to a South Korea type prioritized testing thing 1536 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:05,250 Korea type prioritized testing thing 1537 00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:08,240 Korea type prioritized testing thing within within a few weeks how important 1538 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:08,250 within within a few weeks how important 1539 00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:11,140 within within a few weeks how important is it that the world's nations 1540 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:11,150 is it that the world's nations 1541 00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:13,670 is it that the world's nations collaborate right now I mean it's you 1542 00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:13,680 collaborate right now I mean it's you 1543 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,800 collaborate right now I mean it's you know it's like you know here's this 1544 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:15,810 know it's like you know here's this 1545 00:36:15,810 --> 00:36:18,500 know it's like you know here's this common enemy facing humanity it does not 1546 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:18,510 common enemy facing humanity it does not 1547 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:20,360 common enemy facing humanity it does not know that it just crossed a border it 1548 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,370 know that it just crossed a border it 1549 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:22,490 know that it just crossed a border it does not know what race people are what 1550 00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:22,500 does not know what race people are what 1551 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:24,470 does not know what race people are what religion they are it just knows here's a 1552 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:24,480 religion they are it just knows here's a 1553 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,870 religion they are it just knows here's a human I've got I've got I've got a 1554 00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:26,880 human I've got I've got I've got a 1555 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,080 human I've got I've got I've got a manufacturing machine here that can make 1556 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,090 manufacturing machine here that can make 1557 00:36:30,090 --> 00:36:33,080 manufacturing machine here that can make me famous and and it goes to work ha 1558 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,090 me famous and and it goes to work ha 1559 00:36:33,090 --> 00:36:36,320 me famous and and it goes to work ha it's so terrifying to me to see signs of 1560 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:36,330 it's so terrifying to me to see signs of 1561 00:36:36,330 --> 00:36:38,090 it's so terrifying to me to see signs of doubt of countries starting to blame 1562 00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:38,100 doubt of countries starting to blame 1563 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,250 doubt of countries starting to blame each other or you know that the 1564 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:40,260 each other or you know that the 1565 00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:42,470 each other or you know that the xenophobia just seems so toxic how do 1566 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:42,480 xenophobia just seems so toxic how do 1567 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,690 xenophobia just seems so toxic how do you how what's your take on this bill is 1568 00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:44,700 you how what's your take on this bill is 1569 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:47,590 you how what's your take on this bill is there anything do you see signs of 1570 00:36:47,590 --> 00:36:47,600 there anything do you see signs of 1571 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,850 there anything do you see signs of cooperation happening or are you also 1572 00:36:49,850 --> 00:36:49,860 cooperation happening or are you also 1573 00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:52,550 cooperation happening or are you also worried about the sort of us versus 1574 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:52,560 worried about the sort of us versus 1575 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,090 worried about the sort of us versus China kind of thing that seems to be 1576 00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:56,100 China kind of thing that seems to be 1577 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,640 China kind of thing that seems to be going on if we're not careful well I see 1578 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:58,650 going on if we're not careful well I see 1579 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:03,280 going on if we're not careful well I see both I see that countries that are 1580 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,290 both I see that countries that are 1581 00:37:03,290 --> 00:37:06,620 both I see that countries that are recovered can help other countries and 1582 00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:06,630 recovered can help other countries and 1583 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:10,400 recovered can help other countries and that you know that's fantastic 1584 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,410 that you know that's fantastic 1585 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,460 that you know that's fantastic if by the summer we've knocked this 1586 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:13,470 if by the summer we've knocked this 1587 00:37:13,470 --> 00:37:16,310 if by the summer we've knocked this thing down then great we can help other 1588 00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:16,320 thing down then great we can help other 1589 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,920 thing down then great we can help other countries there are vaccine projects all 1590 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:18,930 countries there are vaccine projects all 1591 00:37:18,930 --> 00:37:20,590 countries there are vaccine projects all over the world the nose should be 1592 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:20,600 over the world the nose should be 1593 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,660 over the world the nose should be evaluated on a very neutral basis to 1594 00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:23,670 evaluated on a very neutral basis to 1595 00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:25,790 evaluated on a very neutral basis to which one is the the best to help 1596 00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:25,800 which one is the the best to help 1597 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,610 which one is the the best to help humanity and make sure the manufacturing 1598 00:37:28,610 --> 00:37:28,620 humanity and make sure the manufacturing 1599 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:31,280 humanity and make sure the manufacturing capacity isn't just for rich countries 1600 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,290 capacity isn't just for rich countries 1601 00:37:31,290 --> 00:37:34,160 capacity isn't just for rich countries that had scaled up very low cost uh for 1602 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,170 that had scaled up very low cost uh for 1603 00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:36,560 that had scaled up very low cost uh for the entire world and that's the spirit 1604 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:36,570 the entire world and that's the spirit 1605 00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:39,980 the entire world and that's the spirit of Gavi is getting vaccines out to every 1606 00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:39,990 of Gavi is getting vaccines out to every 1607 00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:42,710 of Gavi is getting vaccines out to every person so you see really good in the 1608 00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:42,720 person so you see really good in the 1609 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,190 person so you see really good in the science side and 1610 00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:44,200 science side and 1611 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,530 science side and data sharing side you see this great 1612 00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:46,540 data sharing side you see this great 1613 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,020 data sharing side you see this great cooperation going on unfortunately 1614 00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:49,030 cooperation going on unfortunately 1615 00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:51,180 cooperation going on unfortunately whenever you have disease this sense of 1616 00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:51,190 whenever you have disease this sense of 1617 00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:53,579 whenever you have disease this sense of other and foreign and no stay away from 1618 00:37:53,579 --> 00:37:53,589 other and foreign and no stay away from 1619 00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:57,240 other and foreign and no stay away from me are you know that sort of pulling 1620 00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:57,250 me are you know that sort of pulling 1621 00:37:57,250 --> 00:38:00,540 me are you know that sort of pulling inward is reinforced and we have to 1622 00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:00,550 inward is reinforced and we have to 1623 00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:04,380 inward is reinforced and we have to avoid that you know ironically we have 1624 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:04,390 avoid that you know ironically we have 1625 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:07,950 avoid that you know ironically we have to isolate physically while in terms of 1626 00:38:07,950 --> 00:38:07,960 to isolate physically while in terms of 1627 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,300 to isolate physically while in terms of looking at community groups that are 1628 00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:12,310 looking at community groups that are 1629 00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:15,270 looking at community groups that are pooling resources to help make sure food 1630 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:15,280 pooling resources to help make sure food 1631 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,430 pooling resources to help make sure food gets to everyone and helps your medical 1632 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:17,440 gets to everyone and helps your medical 1633 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,290 gets to everyone and helps your medical care and that you know if older people 1634 00:38:19,290 --> 00:38:19,300 care and that you know if older people 1635 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,290 care and that you know if older people need to be moved out of common 1636 00:38:22,290 --> 00:38:22,300 need to be moved out of common 1637 00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,329 need to be moved out of common facilities you help out with that and 1638 00:38:24,329 --> 00:38:24,339 facilities you help out with that and 1639 00:38:24,339 --> 00:38:26,940 facilities you help out with that and you know people aren't suffering too 1640 00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:26,950 you know people aren't suffering too 1641 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:29,160 you know people aren't suffering too much from the psychology of isolation so 1642 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:29,170 much from the psychology of isolation so 1643 00:38:29,170 --> 00:38:31,740 much from the psychology of isolation so our generosity has to go out towards 1644 00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:31,750 our generosity has to go out towards 1645 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:34,380 our generosity has to go out towards others at the same time or less actually 1646 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:34,390 others at the same time or less actually 1647 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:37,589 others at the same time or less actually physically in interacting with other 1648 00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:37,599 physically in interacting with other 1649 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,589 physically in interacting with other people I mean thinking about the 1650 00:38:40,589 --> 00:38:40,599 people I mean thinking about the 1651 00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:42,450 people I mean thinking about the situation in many developing countries 1652 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:42,460 situation in many developing countries 1653 00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:44,579 situation in many developing countries I'm curious how you think of this I mean 1654 00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:44,589 I'm curious how you think of this I mean 1655 00:38:44,589 --> 00:38:46,670 I'm curious how you think of this I mean you mentioned festival that seasonality 1656 00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:46,680 you mentioned festival that seasonality 1657 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,620 you mentioned festival that seasonality may help ie high temperatures is it 1658 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:49,630 may help ie high temperatures is it 1659 00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:51,839 may help ie high temperatures is it possible that that is so far protecting 1660 00:38:51,839 --> 00:38:51,849 possible that that is so far protecting 1661 00:38:51,849 --> 00:38:54,710 possible that that is so far protecting pace to some extent places like India or 1662 00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:54,720 pace to some extent places like India or 1663 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,839 pace to some extent places like India or sub-saharan Africa and so forth in 1664 00:38:57,839 --> 00:38:57,849 sub-saharan Africa and so forth in 1665 00:38:57,849 --> 00:39:00,270 sub-saharan Africa and so forth in india's northern hemisphere so southern 1666 00:39:00,270 --> 00:39:00,280 india's northern hemisphere so southern 1667 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,880 india's northern hemisphere so southern hemisphere is lots of Africa South 1668 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:02,890 hemisphere is lots of Africa South 1669 00:39:02,890 --> 00:39:04,890 hemisphere is lots of Africa South America Australia New Zealand Indonesia 1670 00:39:04,890 --> 00:39:04,900 America Australia New Zealand Indonesia 1671 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:09,839 America Australia New Zealand Indonesia and it is true either they're not the 1672 00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:09,849 and it is true either they're not the 1673 00:39:09,849 --> 00:39:11,670 and it is true either they're not the either the force of infection is lower 1674 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:11,680 either the force of infection is lower 1675 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,960 either the force of infection is lower there we're just not seeing it with 1676 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:12,970 there we're just not seeing it with 1677 00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:15,329 there we're just not seeing it with testing you know a few months from now 1678 00:39:15,329 --> 00:39:15,339 testing you know a few months from now 1679 00:39:15,339 --> 00:39:16,859 testing you know a few months from now we'll understand the seasonality 1680 00:39:16,859 --> 00:39:16,869 we'll understand the seasonality 1681 00:39:16,869 --> 00:39:19,230 we'll understand the seasonality question which would be good news for 1682 00:39:19,230 --> 00:39:19,240 question which would be good news for 1683 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,809 question which would be good news for the northern hemisphere and somewhat bad 1684 00:39:21,809 --> 00:39:21,819 the northern hemisphere and somewhat bad 1685 00:39:21,819 --> 00:39:24,329 the northern hemisphere and somewhat bad news for the summit hemisphere now more 1686 00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:24,339 news for the summit hemisphere now more 1687 00:39:24,339 --> 00:39:25,890 news for the summit hemisphere now more people live in the northern hemisphere 1688 00:39:25,890 --> 00:39:25,900 people live in the northern hemisphere 1689 00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,440 people live in the northern hemisphere including you know India Pakistan and 1690 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,450 including you know India Pakistan and 1691 00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:31,079 including you know India Pakistan and that would buy us some time the time is 1692 00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:31,089 that would buy us some time the time is 1693 00:39:31,089 --> 00:39:33,510 that would buy us some time the time is a big deal because all these tools get 1694 00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:33,520 a big deal because all these tools get 1695 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,980 a big deal because all these tools get so much better if you had to go into a 1696 00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:37,990 so much better if you had to go into a 1697 00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:41,190 so much better if you had to go into a second season with it but yes sadly we 1698 00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:41,200 second season with it but yes sadly we 1699 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,710 second season with it but yes sadly we could see in the next few months is the 1700 00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:43,720 could see in the next few months is the 1701 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,200 could see in the next few months is the southern hemisphere is moving into it's 1702 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,210 southern hemisphere is moving into it's 1703 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:50,370 southern hemisphere is moving into it's a fall and then winter we could see a 1704 00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:50,380 a fall and then winter we could see a 1705 00:39:50,380 --> 00:39:53,579 a fall and then winter we could see a big increase there and and that is going 1706 00:39:53,579 --> 00:39:53,589 big increase there and and that is going 1707 00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:55,050 big increase there and and that is going to be very difficult now they don't have 1708 00:39:55,050 --> 00:39:55,060 to be very difficult now they don't have 1709 00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:57,730 to be very difficult now they don't have as many older people but they have lots 1710 00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:57,740 as many older people but they have lots 1711 00:39:57,740 --> 00:40:01,450 as many older people but they have lots people who have four hiv-positive or how 1712 00:40:01,450 --> 00:40:01,460 people who have four hiv-positive or how 1713 00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:04,740 people who have four hiv-positive or how about nutrition are various lung 1714 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:04,750 about nutrition are various lung 1715 00:40:04,750 --> 00:40:07,210 about nutrition are various lung challenges because of indoor smoke and 1716 00:40:07,210 --> 00:40:07,220 challenges because of indoor smoke and 1717 00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:11,020 challenges because of indoor smoke and so the wild card is how well can the 1718 00:40:11,020 --> 00:40:11,030 so the wild card is how well can the 1719 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:12,880 so the wild card is how well can the developing countries deal with this I 1720 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:12,890 developing countries deal with this I 1721 00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:15,070 developing countries deal with this I mean if you're in a country where you 1722 00:40:15,070 --> 00:40:15,080 mean if you're in a country where you 1723 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,600 mean if you're in a country where you have the majority of your populations 1724 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:16,610 have the majority of your populations 1725 00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:18,640 have the majority of your populations making less than two or three dollars a 1726 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:18,650 making less than two or three dollars a 1727 00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:21,070 making less than two or three dollars a day can you even afford a strategy that 1728 00:40:21,070 --> 00:40:21,080 day can you even afford a strategy that 1729 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,780 day can you even afford a strategy that looks looks like basically shutting down 1730 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:22,790 looks looks like basically shutting down 1731 00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:26,400 looks looks like basically shutting down the economy I'm very worried that there 1732 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:26,410 the economy I'm very worried that there 1733 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:31,210 the economy I'm very worried that there will be a massive number of deaths in 1734 00:40:31,210 --> 00:40:31,220 will be a massive number of deaths in 1735 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:33,190 will be a massive number of deaths in those poor countries because the health 1736 00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:33,200 those poor countries because the health 1737 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,820 those poor countries because the health systems just aren't you know the number 1738 00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:36,830 systems just aren't you know the number 1739 00:40:36,830 --> 00:40:39,280 systems just aren't you know the number of respirators hospitals and of course 1740 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:39,290 of respirators hospitals and of course 1741 00:40:39,290 --> 00:40:40,780 of respirators hospitals and of course when you overload that system your 1742 00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:40,790 when you overload that system your 1743 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:43,720 when you overload that system your deaths are not just koba deaths but the 1744 00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:43,730 deaths are not just koba deaths but the 1745 00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:46,030 deaths are not just koba deaths but the everyone else who's trying to access a 1746 00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:46,040 everyone else who's trying to access a 1747 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,220 everyone else who's trying to access a system that will be somewhat in chaos 1748 00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:48,230 system that will be somewhat in chaos 1749 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:50,410 system that will be somewhat in chaos including with health workers who are 1750 00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:50,420 including with health workers who are 1751 00:40:50,420 --> 00:40:53,590 including with health workers who are getting sick okay we're getting near to 1752 00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:53,600 getting sick okay we're getting near to 1753 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,480 getting sick okay we're getting near to running out of time of this wouldn't it 1754 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:55,490 running out of time of this wouldn't it 1755 00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:56,830 running out of time of this wouldn't it maybe allows the question or two from 1756 00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:56,840 maybe allows the question or two from 1757 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,830 maybe allows the question or two from online sure so we have two from online 1758 00:40:59,830 --> 00:40:59,840 online sure so we have two from online 1759 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,150 online sure so we have two from online we're seeing thousands of questions 1760 00:41:01,150 --> 00:41:01,160 we're seeing thousands of questions 1761 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,220 we're seeing thousands of questions around these same lines one there's lots 1762 00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:03,230 around these same lines one there's lots 1763 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:04,480 around these same lines one there's lots of people who are really interested to 1764 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,490 of people who are really interested to 1765 00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:06,280 of people who are really interested to hear about the kind of work that you're 1766 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:06,290 hear about the kind of work that you're 1767 00:41:06,290 --> 00:41:07,900 hear about the kind of work that you're doing with your foundation as far as 1768 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:07,910 doing with your foundation as far as 1769 00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:10,690 doing with your foundation as far as distributing tests but also producing at 1770 00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:10,700 distributing tests but also producing at 1771 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,120 distributing tests but also producing at producing safety gear masks and that 1772 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,130 producing safety gear masks and that 1773 00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:14,740 producing safety gear masks and that sort of thing to help with this effort 1774 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:14,750 sort of thing to help with this effort 1775 00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:17,770 sort of thing to help with this effort for health workers yeah so the Gates 1776 00:41:17,770 --> 00:41:17,780 for health workers yeah so the Gates 1777 00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:19,210 for health workers yeah so the Gates Foundation 1778 00:41:19,210 --> 00:41:19,220 Foundation 1779 00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:22,210 Foundation you know we very early on gave out a 1780 00:41:22,210 --> 00:41:22,220 you know we very early on gave out a 1781 00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:26,109 you know we very early on gave out a hundred million to help out with all the 1782 00:41:26,109 --> 00:41:26,119 hundred million to help out with all the 1783 00:41:26,119 --> 00:41:28,810 hundred million to help out with all the pieces the testing piece the 1784 00:41:28,810 --> 00:41:28,820 pieces the testing piece the 1785 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:31,420 pieces the testing piece the therapeutics and the vaccines we are not 1786 00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:31,430 therapeutics and the vaccines we are not 1787 00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:33,970 therapeutics and the vaccines we are not experts in making masks and ventilators 1788 00:41:33,970 --> 00:41:33,980 experts in making masks and ventilators 1789 00:41:33,980 --> 00:41:36,880 experts in making masks and ventilators and gowns and it's great that other 1790 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:36,890 and gowns and it's great that other 1791 00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:39,849 and gowns and it's great that other people including some 3d printing and 1792 00:41:39,849 --> 00:41:39,859 people including some 3d printing and 1793 00:41:39,859 --> 00:41:42,010 people including some 3d printing and open source things that is great 1794 00:41:42,010 --> 00:41:42,020 open source things that is great 1795 00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:45,070 open source things that is great our focus you know like these self swab 1796 00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:45,080 our focus you know like these self swab 1797 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,490 our focus you know like these self swab thing it you know nobody had done that 1798 00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:48,500 thing it you know nobody had done that 1799 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:50,770 thing it you know nobody had done that before people thought it wouldn't work 1800 00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:50,780 before people thought it wouldn't work 1801 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:52,780 before people thought it wouldn't work we were quite sure it would work and so 1802 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:52,790 we were quite sure it would work and so 1803 00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:55,660 we were quite sure it would work and so that for the globe is a huge thing we 1804 00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:55,670 that for the globe is a huge thing we 1805 00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:57,190 that for the globe is a huge thing we work a lot with both governments on 1806 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:57,200 work a lot with both governments on 1807 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,840 work a lot with both governments on private sector so in some ways we're 1808 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:58,850 private sector so in some ways we're 1809 00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:01,870 private sector so in some ways we're kind of a bridge and you know so we've 1810 00:42:01,870 --> 00:42:01,880 kind of a bridge and you know so we've 1811 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,890 kind of a bridge and you know so we've been talking to the head of the 1812 00:42:02,890 --> 00:42:02,900 been talking to the head of the 1813 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:04,900 been talking to the head of the pharmaceutical companies and the testing 1814 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:04,910 pharmaceutical companies and the testing 1815 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:07,390 pharmaceutical companies and the testing companies and specifically with the ones 1816 00:42:07,390 --> 00:42:07,400 companies and specifically with the ones 1817 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,340 companies and specifically with the ones doing vaccines including some of which 1818 00:42:09,340 --> 00:42:09,350 doing vaccines including some of which 1819 00:42:09,350 --> 00:42:10,579 doing vaccines including some of which are these new 1820 00:42:10,579 --> 00:42:10,589 are these new 1821 00:42:10,589 --> 00:42:13,370 are these new the vaccines are na vaccines that we've 1822 00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:13,380 the vaccines are na vaccines that we've 1823 00:42:13,380 --> 00:42:16,009 the vaccines are na vaccines that we've been backing you know for quite some 1824 00:42:16,009 --> 00:42:16,019 been backing you know for quite some 1825 00:42:16,019 --> 00:42:18,079 been backing you know for quite some time and sepi has been backing and so 1826 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:18,089 time and sepi has been backing and so 1827 00:42:18,089 --> 00:42:20,959 time and sepi has been backing and so our expertise are is in those medical 1828 00:42:20,959 --> 00:42:20,969 our expertise are is in those medical 1829 00:42:20,969 --> 00:42:23,660 our expertise are is in those medical tools and really getting the best of the 1830 00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:23,670 tools and really getting the best of the 1831 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:26,209 tools and really getting the best of the private sector engaged there it's been a 1832 00:42:26,209 --> 00:42:26,219 private sector engaged there it's been a 1833 00:42:26,219 --> 00:42:28,459 private sector engaged there it's been a little slow we can write checks you know 1834 00:42:28,459 --> 00:42:28,469 little slow we can write checks you know 1835 00:42:28,469 --> 00:42:30,200 little slow we can write checks you know right away whereas the government 1836 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:30,210 right away whereas the government 1837 00:42:30,210 --> 00:42:33,529 right away whereas the government processes even in this situation you 1838 00:42:33,529 --> 00:42:33,539 processes even in this situation you 1839 00:42:33,539 --> 00:42:34,640 processes even in this situation you know there's still this notion of 1840 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:34,650 know there's still this notion of 1841 00:42:34,650 --> 00:42:37,099 know there's still this notion of bidding and not really knowing who has 1842 00:42:37,099 --> 00:42:37,109 bidding and not really knowing who has 1843 00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:39,950 bidding and not really knowing who has the unique capabilities of doing things 1844 00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:39,960 the unique capabilities of doing things 1845 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,589 the unique capabilities of doing things and you know so an organization that's 1846 00:42:42,589 --> 00:42:42,599 and you know so an organization that's 1847 00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:45,140 and you know so an organization that's working on this all the time lots of new 1848 00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:45,150 working on this all the time lots of new 1849 00:42:45,150 --> 00:42:48,109 working on this all the time lots of new vaccines can step in and and and be 1850 00:42:48,109 --> 00:42:48,119 vaccines can step in and and and be 1851 00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:49,969 vaccines can step in and and and be helpful and it's really amazing when we 1852 00:42:49,969 --> 00:42:49,979 helpful and it's really amazing when we 1853 00:42:49,979 --> 00:42:51,529 helpful and it's really amazing when we talk to private sector partners their 1854 00:42:51,529 --> 00:42:51,539 talk to private sector partners their 1855 00:42:51,539 --> 00:42:54,979 talk to private sector partners their interest in helping out is has been 1856 00:42:54,979 --> 00:42:54,989 interest in helping out is has been 1857 00:42:54,989 --> 00:42:59,569 interest in helping out is has been absolutely fantastic and you know so 1858 00:42:59,569 --> 00:42:59,579 absolutely fantastic and you know so 1859 00:42:59,579 --> 00:43:02,150 absolutely fantastic and you know so that's where we're we have a unique role 1860 00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:02,160 that's where we're we have a unique role 1861 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,499 that's where we're we have a unique role that's great and I mean and the other 1862 00:43:03,499 --> 00:43:03,509 that's great and I mean and the other 1863 00:43:03,509 --> 00:43:04,759 that's great and I mean and the other question that we're just seeing a ton of 1864 00:43:04,759 --> 00:43:04,769 question that we're just seeing a ton of 1865 00:43:04,769 --> 00:43:07,339 question that we're just seeing a ton of before we wrap up here is is it's just 1866 00:43:07,339 --> 00:43:07,349 before we wrap up here is is it's just 1867 00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:08,569 before we wrap up here is is it's just people are really interested in your 1868 00:43:08,569 --> 00:43:08,579 people are really interested in your 1869 00:43:08,579 --> 00:43:11,150 people are really interested in your insight bill on whether you think we're 1870 00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:11,160 insight bill on whether you think we're 1871 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,380 insight bill on whether you think we're heading in the right direction do you 1872 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:12,390 heading in the right direction do you 1873 00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:14,479 heading in the right direction do you feel like our economy is heading in the 1874 00:43:14,479 --> 00:43:14,489 feel like our economy is heading in the 1875 00:43:14,489 --> 00:43:16,370 feel like our economy is heading in the right place that humanity is heading in 1876 00:43:16,370 --> 00:43:16,380 right place that humanity is heading in 1877 00:43:16,380 --> 00:43:18,410 right place that humanity is heading in the right place are we in a better 1878 00:43:18,410 --> 00:43:18,420 the right place are we in a better 1879 00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:20,029 the right place are we in a better position now than you thought we were in 1880 00:43:20,029 --> 00:43:20,039 position now than you thought we were in 1881 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:24,289 position now than you thought we were in five years ago well the five years ago I 1882 00:43:24,289 --> 00:43:24,299 five years ago well the five years ago I 1883 00:43:24,299 --> 00:43:29,959 five years ago well the five years ago I said that the pandemic is this 1884 00:43:29,959 --> 00:43:29,969 said that the pandemic is this 1885 00:43:29,969 --> 00:43:33,969 said that the pandemic is this unaddressed very very scary thing and 1886 00:43:33,969 --> 00:43:33,979 unaddressed very very scary thing and 1887 00:43:33,979 --> 00:43:37,099 unaddressed very very scary thing and that you know if we did the right things 1888 00:43:37,099 --> 00:43:37,109 that you know if we did the right things 1889 00:43:37,109 --> 00:43:39,829 that you know if we did the right things we could be more prepared science is on 1890 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:39,839 we could be more prepared science is on 1891 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:44,299 we could be more prepared science is on our side the the fact we can be ready 1892 00:43:44,299 --> 00:43:44,309 our side the the fact we can be ready 1893 00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:47,569 our side the the fact we can be ready for the next epidemic it's very clear 1894 00:43:47,569 --> 00:43:47,579 for the next epidemic it's very clear 1895 00:43:47,579 --> 00:43:50,569 for the next epidemic it's very clear how to do that and yes it will take tens 1896 00:43:50,569 --> 00:43:50,579 how to do that and yes it will take tens 1897 00:43:50,579 --> 00:43:53,089 how to do that and yes it will take tens of billions but not hundreds or 1898 00:43:53,089 --> 00:43:53,099 of billions but not hundreds or 1899 00:43:53,099 --> 00:43:55,700 of billions but not hundreds or trillions of dollars so it'll be tiny 1900 00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:55,710 trillions of dollars so it'll be tiny 1901 00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:59,089 trillions of dollars so it'll be tiny compared to the economic cost I remember 1902 00:43:59,089 --> 00:43:59,099 compared to the economic cost I remember 1903 00:43:59,099 --> 00:44:01,160 compared to the economic cost I remember when I did that presentation of 2015 I 1904 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,170 when I did that presentation of 2015 I 1905 00:44:01,170 --> 00:44:04,339 when I did that presentation of 2015 I put up a hey you know a big flu epidemic 1906 00:44:04,339 --> 00:44:04,349 put up a hey you know a big flu epidemic 1907 00:44:04,349 --> 00:44:05,900 put up a hey you know a big flu epidemic could cost four trillion I thought wow 1908 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:05,910 could cost four trillion I thought wow 1909 00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:07,549 could cost four trillion I thought wow that's a big number do I really think 1910 00:44:07,549 --> 00:44:07,559 that's a big number do I really think 1911 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,099 that's a big number do I really think it's that big and I went and took the 1912 00:44:10,099 --> 00:44:10,109 it's that big and I went and took the 1913 00:44:10,109 --> 00:44:12,109 it's that big and I went and took the murse I thought yeah well that that's 1914 00:44:12,109 --> 00:44:12,119 murse I thought yeah well that that's 1915 00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:17,930 murse I thought yeah well that that's big this epidemic will cost that much to 1916 00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:17,940 big this epidemic will cost that much to 1917 00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:21,650 big this epidemic will cost that much to the economy so in the short run we are 1918 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:21,660 the economy so in the short run we are 1919 00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:23,630 the economy so in the short run we are going to have more pain and more 1920 00:44:23,630 --> 00:44:23,640 going to have more pain and more 1921 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,770 going to have more pain and more difficulty 1922 00:44:24,770 --> 00:44:24,780 difficulty 1923 00:44:24,780 --> 00:44:26,900 difficulty and people are going to have to step up 1924 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:26,910 and people are going to have to step up 1925 00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:29,210 and people are going to have to step up to help each other I'm still very much 1926 00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:29,220 to help each other I'm still very much 1927 00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:31,220 to help each other I'm still very much an optimist you know whether its climate 1928 00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:31,230 an optimist you know whether its climate 1929 00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:33,550 an optimist you know whether its climate change countries working together 1930 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:33,560 change countries working together 1931 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:38,780 change countries working together biology taking the diseases malaria TB 1932 00:44:38,780 --> 00:44:38,790 biology taking the diseases malaria TB 1933 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:42,170 biology taking the diseases malaria TB you know even advances for what are more 1934 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:42,180 you know even advances for what are more 1935 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:44,870 you know even advances for what are more ritual diseases like cancer the amount 1936 00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:44,880 ritual diseases like cancer the amount 1937 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,730 ritual diseases like cancer the amount of innovation the way we can connect up 1938 00:44:46,730 --> 00:44:46,740 of innovation the way we can connect up 1939 00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:48,380 of innovation the way we can connect up and work together yes 1940 00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:48,390 and work together yes 1941 00:44:48,390 --> 00:44:51,680 and work together yes I'm super positive about that you know I 1942 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:51,690 I'm super positive about that you know I 1943 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:54,650 I'm super positive about that you know I love my work because I see progress on 1944 00:44:54,650 --> 00:44:54,660 love my work because I see progress on 1945 00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:56,690 love my work because I see progress on all these diseases all the time now we 1946 00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:56,700 all these diseases all the time now we 1947 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:00,080 all these diseases all the time now we have to you know turn and and focus on 1948 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,090 have to you know turn and and focus on 1949 00:45:00,090 --> 00:45:02,960 have to you know turn and and focus on this you know sadly it may interrupt and 1950 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:02,970 this you know sadly it may interrupt and 1951 00:45:02,970 --> 00:45:05,000 this you know sadly it may interrupt and the polio situation might get worse a 1952 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,010 the polio situation might get worse a 1953 00:45:05,010 --> 00:45:06,650 the polio situation might get worse a little bit because of the distraction 1954 00:45:06,650 --> 00:45:06,660 little bit because of the distraction 1955 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:09,680 little bit because of the distraction here you know we're using a lot of the 1956 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:09,690 here you know we're using a lot of the 1957 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:12,620 here you know we're using a lot of the great capacity that was built up for 1958 00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:12,630 great capacity that was built up for 1959 00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:14,420 great capacity that was built up for those polio activities to try and help 1960 00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:14,430 those polio activities to try and help 1961 00:45:14,430 --> 00:45:16,190 those polio activities to try and help the developing countries respond to this 1962 00:45:16,190 --> 00:45:16,200 the developing countries respond to this 1963 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,530 the developing countries respond to this very well and that that is appropriate 1964 00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:18,540 very well and that that is appropriate 1965 00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:21,170 very well and that that is appropriate but you know the message for me although 1966 00:45:21,170 --> 00:45:21,180 but you know the message for me although 1967 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:22,970 but you know the message for me although it's very sober when we're dealing with 1968 00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:22,980 it's very sober when we're dealing with 1969 00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:25,400 it's very sober when we're dealing with this epidemic 1970 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:25,410 this epidemic 1971 00:45:25,410 --> 00:45:29,120 this epidemic you know I'm I'm very positive that this 1972 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,130 you know I'm I'm very positive that this 1973 00:45:29,130 --> 00:45:34,220 you know I'm I'm very positive that this should draw us together we will get out 1974 00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:34,230 should draw us together we will get out 1975 00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:38,000 should draw us together we will get out of this and then we will get ready for 1976 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,010 of this and then we will get ready for 1977 00:45:38,010 --> 00:45:41,690 of this and then we will get ready for the next epidemic that's that's exactly 1978 00:45:41,690 --> 00:45:41,700 the next epidemic that's that's exactly 1979 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:43,280 the next epidemic that's that's exactly what I was going to ask you fellas which 1980 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,290 what I was going to ask you fellas which 1981 00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:45,710 what I was going to ask you fellas which is a help where's your head do you think 1982 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:45,720 is a help where's your head do you think 1983 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,530 is a help where's your head do you think we that we will get through this will 1984 00:45:48,530 --> 00:45:48,540 we that we will get through this will 1985 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:51,530 we that we will get through this will the leaders that matter listen to the 1986 00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:51,540 the leaders that matter listen to the 1987 00:45:51,540 --> 00:45:53,240 the leaders that matter listen to the scientists will they will we make it 1988 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:53,250 scientists will they will we make it 1989 00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:55,550 scientists will they will we make it through did you believe that within a 1990 00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:55,560 through did you believe that within a 1991 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,900 through did you believe that within a few months time we're going to be 1992 00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:56,910 few months time we're going to be 1993 00:45:56,910 --> 00:45:59,420 few months time we're going to be already looking back and saying we 1994 00:45:59,420 --> 00:45:59,430 already looking back and saying we 1995 00:45:59,430 --> 00:46:02,390 already looking back and saying we dodged a pretty bad one there we can't 1996 00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:02,400 dodged a pretty bad one there we can't 1997 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,300 dodged a pretty bad one there we can't say for sure that even the rich 1998 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:05,310 say for sure that even the rich 1999 00:46:05,310 --> 00:46:07,700 say for sure that even the rich countries will be out of this in six to 2000 00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:07,710 countries will be out of this in six to 2001 00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:08,480 countries will be out of this in six to ten weeks 2002 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:08,490 ten weeks 2003 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:12,050 ten weeks I think that's likely but as we get the 2004 00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:12,060 I think that's likely but as we get the 2005 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:14,030 I think that's likely but as we get the testing data we'll get more of a sense 2006 00:46:14,030 --> 00:46:14,040 testing data we'll get more of a sense 2007 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,430 testing data we'll get more of a sense of that and people continuously be able 2008 00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:16,440 of that and people continuously be able 2009 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,370 of that and people continuously be able to see that but you know the rich 2010 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:19,380 to see that but you know the rich 2011 00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:21,560 to see that but you know the rich countries will got out of this the 2012 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:21,570 countries will got out of this the 2013 00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:22,970 countries will got out of this the developing countries will bear a 2014 00:46:22,970 --> 00:46:22,980 developing countries will bear a 2015 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:25,790 developing countries will bear a significant price but even they we will 2016 00:46:25,790 --> 00:46:25,800 significant price but even they we will 2017 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,730 significant price but even they we will get a vaccine and you know Gavi we'll 2018 00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:28,740 get a vaccine and you know Gavi we'll 2019 00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:32,420 get a vaccine and you know Gavi we'll get that out to to everyone so you know 2020 00:46:32,420 --> 00:46:32,430 get that out to to everyone so you know 2021 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:35,540 get that out to to everyone so you know two to three years from now this thing 2022 00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:35,550 two to three years from now this thing 2023 00:46:35,550 --> 00:46:38,030 two to three years from now this thing even on a global basis will essentially 2024 00:46:38,030 --> 00:46:38,040 even on a global basis will essentially 2025 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,540 even on a global basis will essentially be 2026 00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:38,550 be 2027 00:46:38,550 --> 00:46:43,280 be / with a gigantic price tag but now 2028 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:43,290 / with a gigantic price tag but now 2029 00:46:43,290 --> 00:46:45,590 / with a gigantic price tag but now we're gonna know okay next time we see a 2030 00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:45,600 we're gonna know okay next time we see a 2031 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,910 we're gonna know okay next time we see a pathogen we can make billions of tests 2032 00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:49,920 pathogen we can make billions of tests 2033 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,850 pathogen we can make billions of tests within two or three weeks we can figure 2034 00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:52,860 within two or three weeks we can figure 2035 00:46:52,860 --> 00:46:55,010 within two or three weeks we can figure out which antiviral drugs work within 2036 00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:55,020 out which antiviral drugs work within 2037 00:46:55,020 --> 00:46:56,810 out which antiviral drugs work within two or three weeks and get those killed 2038 00:46:56,810 --> 00:46:56,820 two or three weeks and get those killed 2039 00:46:56,820 --> 00:46:59,570 two or three weeks and get those killed up and we can make a vaccine if we're 2040 00:46:59,570 --> 00:46:59,580 up and we can make a vaccine if we're 2041 00:46:59,580 --> 00:47:02,110 up and we can make a vaccine if we're really ready probably in six months 2042 00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:02,120 really ready probably in six months 2043 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,330 really ready probably in six months using these new platforms probably the 2044 00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:05,340 using these new platforms probably the 2045 00:47:05,340 --> 00:47:08,600 using these new platforms probably the RNA vaccine so specifically there are 2046 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:08,610 RNA vaccine so specifically there are 2047 00:47:08,610 --> 00:47:14,930 RNA vaccine so specifically there are innovations that are there that will get 2048 00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:14,940 innovations that are there that will get 2049 00:47:14,940 --> 00:47:18,230 innovations that are there that will get financed you know I hope quite 2050 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:18,240 financed you know I hope quite 2051 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,320 financed you know I hope quite generously coming out of this thing and 2052 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:21,330 generously coming out of this thing and 2053 00:47:21,330 --> 00:47:22,610 generously coming out of this thing and so three years from now we'll look back 2054 00:47:22,610 --> 00:47:22,620 so three years from now we'll look back 2055 00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:26,330 so three years from now we'll look back and say you know that was awful there's 2056 00:47:26,330 --> 00:47:26,340 and say you know that was awful there's 2057 00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:27,920 and say you know that was awful there's a lot of heroes but we've learned the 2058 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:27,930 a lot of heroes but we've learned the 2059 00:47:27,930 --> 00:47:32,000 a lot of heroes but we've learned the lesson and and the world as a whole 2060 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,010 lesson and and the world as a whole 2061 00:47:32,010 --> 00:47:34,490 lesson and and the world as a whole with its great science and desire to 2062 00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:34,500 with its great science and desire to 2063 00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:36,830 with its great science and desire to help each other was able to try and 2064 00:47:36,830 --> 00:47:36,840 help each other was able to try and 2065 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560 help each other was able to try and minimize what happened there and and and 2066 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:39,570 minimize what happened there and and and 2067 00:47:39,570 --> 00:47:43,550 minimize what happened there and and and you know avoid it happening again that 2068 00:47:43,550 --> 00:47:43,560 you know avoid it happening again that 2069 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,710 you know avoid it happening again that certainly the optimistic scenario that 2070 00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:45,720 certainly the optimistic scenario that 2071 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,800 certainly the optimistic scenario that I'm craving for myself that the world 2072 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:48,810 I'm craving for myself that the world 2073 00:47:48,810 --> 00:47:52,250 I'm craving for myself that the world kind of realizes one that there are 2074 00:47:52,250 --> 00:47:52,260 kind of realizes one that there are 2075 00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:53,270 kind of realizes one that there are certain things that you just have to 2076 00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:53,280 certain things that you just have to 2077 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,070 certain things that you just have to unite on to that science really matters 2078 00:47:55,070 --> 00:47:55,080 unite on to that science really matters 2079 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,500 unite on to that science really matters and that side that it's a miracle that 2080 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:57,510 and that side that it's a miracle that 2081 00:47:57,510 --> 00:48:00,230 and that side that it's a miracle that science can understand this bug you know 2082 00:48:00,230 --> 00:48:00,240 science can understand this bug you know 2083 00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,140 science can understand this bug you know make a vaccine in the sequencer to make 2084 00:48:03,140 --> 00:48:03,150 make a vaccine in the sequencer to make 2085 00:48:03,150 --> 00:48:05,450 make a vaccine in the sequencer to make therapeutics understand how to model it 2086 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:05,460 therapeutics understand how to model it 2087 00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:08,060 therapeutics understand how to model it it's kind of miraculous to me so will we 2088 00:48:08,060 --> 00:48:08,070 it's kind of miraculous to me so will we 2089 00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:10,010 it's kind of miraculous to me so will we learn now to that to pay attention to 2090 00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:10,020 learn now to that to pay attention to 2091 00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:12,740 learn now to that to pay attention to scientists because if we do I I'm sure 2092 00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:12,750 scientists because if we do I I'm sure 2093 00:48:12,750 --> 00:48:14,240 scientists because if we do I I'm sure that you feel this as well there's an 2094 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:14,250 that you feel this as well there's an 2095 00:48:14,250 --> 00:48:15,950 that you feel this as well there's an amazing analog right with climate it's 2096 00:48:15,950 --> 00:48:15,960 amazing analog right with climate it's 2097 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,660 amazing analog right with climate it's just a different timescale that the 2098 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:17,670 just a different timescale that the 2099 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:19,190 just a different timescale that the scientists are out there saying there's 2100 00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:19,200 scientists are out there saying there's 2101 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,990 scientists are out there saying there's this huge enemy coming if we do nothing 2102 00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:21,000 this huge enemy coming if we do nothing 2103 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,790 this huge enemy coming if we do nothing it's going to take millions of lives 2104 00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:22,800 it's going to take millions of lives 2105 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,800 it's going to take millions of lives it's going to wreck our planet for God's 2106 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:24,810 it's going to wreck our planet for God's 2107 00:48:24,810 --> 00:48:27,740 it's going to wreck our planet for God's sake at politicians do something and the 2108 00:48:27,740 --> 00:48:27,750 sake at politicians do something and the 2109 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:29,660 sake at politicians do something and the politicians are going no need little 2110 00:48:29,660 --> 00:48:29,670 politicians are going no need little 2111 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:31,700 politicians are going no need little more GDP we need to win an election and 2112 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:31,710 more GDP we need to win an election and 2113 00:48:31,710 --> 00:48:33,950 more GDP we need to win an election and they're not acting mate I mean is that 2114 00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:33,960 they're not acting mate I mean is that 2115 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,700 they're not acting mate I mean is that do you see a scenario where this shocks 2116 00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:36,710 do you see a scenario where this shocks 2117 00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:38,750 do you see a scenario where this shocks politicians to actually change their 2118 00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:38,760 politicians to actually change their 2119 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,520 politicians to actually change their thinking and their prioritization of 2120 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:40,530 thinking and their prioritization of 2121 00:48:40,530 --> 00:48:42,680 thinking and their prioritization of science that we're all at that asking 2122 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:42,690 science that we're all at that asking 2123 00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:45,920 science that we're all at that asking too much yeah it's interesting how much 2124 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:45,930 too much yeah it's interesting how much 2125 00:48:45,930 --> 00:48:50,150 too much yeah it's interesting how much of this distraction will delay the 2126 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:50,160 of this distraction will delay the 2127 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,700 of this distraction will delay the urgent innovation agenda 2128 00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:52,710 urgent innovation agenda 2129 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:55,300 urgent innovation agenda that exists over in climate you know I 2130 00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:55,310 that exists over in climate you know I 2131 00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:57,860 that exists over in climate you know I have freed up a lot of time to work on 2132 00:48:57,860 --> 00:48:57,870 have freed up a lot of time to work on 2133 00:48:57,870 --> 00:49:00,320 have freed up a lot of time to work on climate I have to say you know for the 2134 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,330 climate I have to say you know for the 2135 00:49:00,330 --> 00:49:02,930 climate I have to say you know for the last few months that's now shifted and 2136 00:49:02,930 --> 00:49:02,940 last few months that's now shifted and 2137 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,300 last few months that's now shifted and until we get out of this crisis 2138 00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:05,310 until we get out of this crisis 2139 00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:09,230 until we get out of this crisis Cobin will dominate and so some of the 2140 00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:09,240 Cobin will dominate and so some of the 2141 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,750 Cobin will dominate and so some of the climate stuff although it'll still go on 2142 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:11,760 climate stuff although it'll still go on 2143 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,310 climate stuff although it'll still go on it won't get that same focus is we get 2144 00:49:16,310 --> 00:49:16,320 it won't get that same focus is we get 2145 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,260 it won't get that same focus is we get past this yes that I did innovation in 2146 00:49:21,260 --> 00:49:21,270 past this yes that I did innovation in 2147 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:23,210 past this yes that I did innovation in science and the world working together 2148 00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:23,220 science and the world working together 2149 00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:26,060 science and the world working together that is totally common between these two 2150 00:49:26,060 --> 00:49:26,070 that is totally common between these two 2151 00:49:26,070 --> 00:49:29,780 that is totally common between these two problems and so I don't think this has 2152 00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:29,790 problems and so I don't think this has 2153 00:49:29,790 --> 00:49:33,380 problems and so I don't think this has to be a huge setback for climate so last 2154 00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:33,390 to be a huge setback for climate so last 2155 00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:35,420 to be a huge setback for climate so last question there there are thousands of 2156 00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:35,430 question there there are thousands of 2157 00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:37,820 question there there are thousands of people watching many of them living 2158 00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:37,830 people watching many of them living 2159 00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:40,730 people watching many of them living alone some quote scared they're making 2160 00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:40,740 alone some quote scared they're making 2161 00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:43,490 alone some quote scared they're making these people that who have this virus 2162 00:49:43,490 --> 00:49:43,500 these people that who have this virus 2163 00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,570 these people that who have this virus and suffering symptoms are recovering by 2164 00:49:47,570 --> 00:49:47,580 and suffering symptoms are recovering by 2165 00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:49,130 and suffering symptoms are recovering by the way if that's if that's you we'd 2166 00:49:49,130 --> 00:49:49,140 the way if that's if that's you we'd 2167 00:49:49,140 --> 00:49:50,750 the way if that's if that's you we'd love to hear from you 2168 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:50,760 love to hear from you 2169 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,270 love to hear from you we really would maybe have a 2170 00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:53,280 we really would maybe have a 2171 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,500 we really would maybe have a conversation with some of you have just 2172 00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:54,510 conversation with some of you have just 2173 00:49:54,510 --> 00:49:56,540 conversation with some of you have just you know in a future one of these just 2174 00:49:56,540 --> 00:49:56,550 you know in a future one of these just 2175 00:49:56,550 --> 00:49:59,360 you know in a future one of these just understanding the experience but bill 2176 00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,370 understanding the experience but bill 2177 00:49:59,370 --> 00:50:02,030 understanding the experience but bill what can people do as individuals from 2178 00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:02,040 what can people do as individuals from 2179 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,110 what can people do as individuals from their own homes right now to try and 2180 00:50:05,110 --> 00:50:05,120 their own homes right now to try and 2181 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,480 their own homes right now to try and help well there's a lot of creativity 2182 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:08,490 help well there's a lot of creativity 2183 00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:12,530 help well there's a lot of creativity you know can you mentor kids who are 2184 00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:12,540 you know can you mentor kids who are 2185 00:50:12,540 --> 00:50:15,080 you know can you mentor kids who are being forced into an online format where 2186 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:15,090 being forced into an online format where 2187 00:50:15,090 --> 00:50:17,030 being forced into an online format where the school systems really weren't ready 2188 00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:17,040 the school systems really weren't ready 2189 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,250 the school systems really weren't ready for that can you 2190 00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:18,260 for that can you 2191 00:50:18,260 --> 00:50:21,020 for that can you organize some giving activity that gets 2192 00:50:21,020 --> 00:50:21,030 organize some giving activity that gets 2193 00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:22,790 organize some giving activity that gets the you know the food banks to step up 2194 00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:22,800 the you know the food banks to step up 2195 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,880 the you know the food banks to step up where there's problems there these are 2196 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:25,890 where there's problems there these are 2197 00:50:25,890 --> 00:50:28,430 where there's problems there these are such unprecedent at times and it really 2198 00:50:28,430 --> 00:50:28,440 such unprecedent at times and it really 2199 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,910 such unprecedent at times and it really should draw out that that sense of you 2200 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:31,920 should draw out that that sense of you 2201 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,510 should draw out that that sense of you know creativity Wow complying with the 2202 00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:35,520 know creativity Wow complying with the 2203 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,990 know creativity Wow complying with the isolation mandates well bill I really 2204 00:50:38,990 --> 00:50:39,000 isolation mandates well bill I really 2205 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,850 isolation mandates well bill I really want to thank you for spending this this 2206 00:50:40,850 --> 00:50:40,860 want to thank you for spending this this 2207 00:50:40,860 --> 00:50:43,610 want to thank you for spending this this time with us and for the the financial 2208 00:50:43,610 --> 00:50:43,620 time with us and for the the financial 2209 00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:45,710 time with us and for the the financial investment the time investment you've 2210 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:45,720 investment the time investment you've 2211 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,890 investment the time investment you've really invested your life into trying to 2212 00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:48,900 really invested your life into trying to 2213 00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:50,570 really invested your life into trying to solve these big problems and this is as 2214 00:50:50,570 --> 00:50:50,580 solve these big problems and this is as 2215 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:53,930 solve these big problems and this is as big as they get I have a hunch that your 2216 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:53,940 big as they get I have a hunch that your 2217 00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:55,820 big as they get I have a hunch that your voice is really gonna be needed in the 2218 00:50:55,820 --> 00:50:55,830 voice is really gonna be needed in the 2219 00:50:55,830 --> 00:50:57,530 voice is really gonna be needed in the next few weeks thank you so much for 2220 00:50:57,530 --> 00:50:57,540 next few weeks thank you so much for 2221 00:50:57,540 --> 00:50:59,330 next few weeks thank you so much for your for your time today this was this 2222 00:50:59,330 --> 00:50:59,340 your for your time today this was this 2223 00:50:59,340 --> 00:51:00,590 your for your time today this was this was really wonderful hearing from you 2224 00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:00,600 was really wonderful hearing from you 2225 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,530 was really wonderful hearing from you thank you you know thanks Chris okay 2226 00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:03,540 thank you you know thanks Chris okay 2227 00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,870 thank you you know thanks Chris okay well thanks everyone thanks for being 2228 00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:05,880 well thanks everyone thanks for being 2229 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,120 well thanks everyone thanks for being part of the tech community look after 2230 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:08,130 part of the tech community look after 2231 00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:10,430 part of the tech community look after yourselves to be smart about this you 2232 00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:10,440 yourselves to be smart about this you 2233 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,020 yourselves to be smart about this you know it's like get ahead of it if you're 2234 00:51:12,020 --> 00:51:12,030 know it's like get ahead of it if you're 2235 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:13,790 know it's like get ahead of it if you're in a part of the world where this thing 2236 00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:13,800 in a part of the world where this thing 2237 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,700 in a part of the world where this thing hasn't really hit listen to Bill Gates 2238 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:16,710 hasn't really hit listen to Bill Gates 2239 00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:19,790 hasn't really hit listen to Bill Gates get ahead of it to keep you know it just 2240 00:51:19,790 --> 00:51:19,800 get ahead of it to keep you know it just 2241 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,730 get ahead of it to keep you know it just if you possibly can 2242 00:51:21,730 --> 00:51:21,740 if you possibly can 2243 00:51:21,740 --> 00:51:24,590 if you possibly can socially a distance not not physically 2244 00:51:24,590 --> 00:51:24,600 socially a distance not not physically 2245 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,360 socially a distance not not physically distance and socially connect that's 2246 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:26,370 distance and socially connect that's 2247 00:51:26,370 --> 00:51:29,270 distance and socially connect that's what the internet is for these days are 2248 00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:29,280 what the internet is for these days are 2249 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,090 what the internet is for these days are what the internet was built for we can 2250 00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:32,100 what the internet was built for we can 2251 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,920 what the internet was built for we can spread love we can spread ideas we can 2252 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:33,930 spread love we can spread ideas we can 2253 00:51:33,930 --> 00:51:35,210 spread love we can spread ideas we can spread relationship we can spread 2254 00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:35,220 spread relationship we can spread 2255 00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:37,940 spread relationship we can spread thought without spreading a dangerous 2256 00:51:37,940 --> 00:51:37,950 thought without spreading a dangerous 2257 00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:41,240 thought without spreading a dangerous bug so get ahead of it and let's figure 2258 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:41,250 bug so get ahead of it and let's figure 2259 00:51:41,250 --> 00:51:42,940 bug so get ahead of it and let's figure this out together it's been wonderful 2260 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:42,950 this out together it's been wonderful 2261 00:51:42,950 --> 00:51:45,500 this out together it's been wonderful spending time with you from Whitney and 2262 00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:45,510 spending time with you from Whitney and 2263 00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:48,080 spending time with you from Whitney and for me and from the whole Ted team thank 2264 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,090 for me and from the whole Ted team thank 2265 00:51:48,090 --> 00:51:50,270 for me and from the whole Ted team thank you