1 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:16,730 so this is um an interview with the 2 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:16,740 so this is um an interview with the 3 00:00:16,740 --> 00:00:18,650 so this is um an interview with the difference I'm the bassist that a 4 00:00:18,650 --> 00:00:18,660 difference I'm the bassist that a 5 00:00:18,660 --> 00:00:21,439 difference I'm the bassist that a picture's worth a thousand words what I 6 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:21,449 picture's worth a thousand words what I 7 00:00:21,449 --> 00:00:24,650 picture's worth a thousand words what I what I did was ask Villa Melinda to dig 8 00:00:24,650 --> 00:00:24,660 what I did was ask Villa Melinda to dig 9 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:27,140 what I did was ask Villa Melinda to dig out from their archive some images that 10 00:00:27,140 --> 00:00:27,150 out from their archive some images that 11 00:00:27,150 --> 00:00:29,269 out from their archive some images that would help explain some of what they've 12 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:29,279 would help explain some of what they've 13 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,939 would help explain some of what they've done and you know do do a few things 14 00:00:31,939 --> 00:00:31,949 done and you know do do a few things 15 00:00:31,949 --> 00:00:35,530 done and you know do do a few things that way so we're gonna start here 16 00:00:35,530 --> 00:00:35,540 17 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:36,889 Melinda 18 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:36,899 Melinda 19 00:00:36,899 --> 00:00:38,990 Melinda when and where was this and who is that 20 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:39,000 when and where was this and who is that 21 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,319 when and where was this and who is that handsome man next to you big glasses 22 00:00:41,319 --> 00:00:41,329 handsome man next to you big glasses 23 00:00:41,329 --> 00:00:44,209 handsome man next to you big glasses this is an Africa our very first trip 24 00:00:44,209 --> 00:00:44,219 this is an Africa our very first trip 25 00:00:44,219 --> 00:00:45,799 this is an Africa our very first trip the first time we either of us had ever 26 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:45,809 the first time we either of us had ever 27 00:00:45,809 --> 00:00:48,139 the first time we either of us had ever been to Africa in the fall of 1993 we 28 00:00:48,139 --> 00:00:48,149 been to Africa in the fall of 1993 we 29 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:49,880 been to Africa in the fall of 1993 we were already engaged to be married we 30 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:49,890 were already engaged to be married we 31 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:52,069 were already engaged to be married we married a few months later and this is 32 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:52,079 married a few months later and this is 33 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,840 married a few months later and this is the trip where we really went to see the 34 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:53,850 the trip where we really went to see the 35 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:55,819 the trip where we really went to see the animals and to see the Savannah it was 36 00:00:55,819 --> 00:00:55,829 animals and to see the Savannah it was 37 00:00:55,829 --> 00:00:57,439 animals and to see the Savannah it was incredible bill had never taken that 38 00:00:57,439 --> 00:00:57,449 incredible bill had never taken that 39 00:00:57,449 --> 00:01:00,229 incredible bill had never taken that much time off from work but what really 40 00:01:00,229 --> 00:01:00,239 much time off from work but what really 41 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:02,720 much time off from work but what really but what really touched us actually were 42 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:02,730 but what really touched us actually were 43 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:06,289 but what really touched us actually were the people and and the extreme poverty 44 00:01:06,289 --> 00:01:06,299 the people and and the extreme poverty 45 00:01:06,299 --> 00:01:07,609 the people and and the extreme poverty we started asking ourselves questions 46 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:07,619 we started asking ourselves questions 47 00:01:07,619 --> 00:01:10,250 we started asking ourselves questions does it have to be like this and at the 48 00:01:10,250 --> 00:01:10,260 does it have to be like this and at the 49 00:01:10,260 --> 00:01:11,539 does it have to be like this and at the end of the trip we went out to Zanzibar 50 00:01:11,539 --> 00:01:11,549 end of the trip we went out to Zanzibar 51 00:01:11,549 --> 00:01:13,310 end of the trip we went out to Zanzibar and took some time to walk on the beach 52 00:01:13,310 --> 00:01:13,320 and took some time to walk on the beach 53 00:01:13,320 --> 00:01:14,510 and took some time to walk on the beach which is something we've done a lot 54 00:01:14,510 --> 00:01:14,520 which is something we've done a lot 55 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,999 which is something we've done a lot while we were dating and we'd already 56 00:01:16,999 --> 00:01:17,009 while we were dating and we'd already 57 00:01:17,009 --> 00:01:18,649 while we were dating and we'd already been talking about during that time that 58 00:01:18,649 --> 00:01:18,659 been talking about during that time that 59 00:01:18,659 --> 00:01:20,179 been talking about during that time that the wealth that had become from 60 00:01:20,179 --> 00:01:20,189 the wealth that had become from 61 00:01:20,189 --> 00:01:22,160 the wealth that had become from Microsoft would be given back to society 62 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,170 Microsoft would be given back to society 63 00:01:22,170 --> 00:01:23,600 Microsoft would be given back to society but it was really on that Beach Walk 64 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:23,610 but it was really on that Beach Walk 65 00:01:23,610 --> 00:01:25,670 but it was really on that Beach Walk that we started to talk about well what 66 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:25,680 that we started to talk about well what 67 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,890 that we started to talk about well what might we do and how might we go about it 68 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:27,900 might we do and how might we go about it 69 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:32,030 might we do and how might we go about it so given that this vacation led to the 70 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:32,040 so given that this vacation led to the 71 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,789 so given that this vacation led to the creation of the world's I guess the 72 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:34,799 creation of the world's I guess the 73 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:36,649 creation of the world's I guess the world's biggest private foundation it's 74 00:01:36,649 --> 00:01:36,659 world's biggest private foundation it's 75 00:01:36,659 --> 00:01:42,200 world's biggest private foundation it's pretty expensive as vacations go I mean 76 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:42,210 pretty expensive as vacations go I mean 77 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:44,630 pretty expensive as vacations go I mean which of you was the key instigator here 78 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:44,640 which of you was the key instigator here 79 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,710 which of you was the key instigator here or was it symmetrical well I think we 80 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:48,720 or was it symmetrical well I think we 81 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,350 or was it symmetrical well I think we were excited that there'd be a phase of 82 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:51,360 were excited that there'd be a phase of 83 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,719 were excited that there'd be a phase of our life where we'd get to work together 84 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:53,729 our life where we'd get to work together 85 00:01:53,729 --> 00:01:56,840 our life where we'd get to work together and figure out how to give this money 86 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:56,850 and figure out how to give this money 87 00:01:56,850 --> 00:02:02,600 and figure out how to give this money back you know at this stage it was we 88 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:02,610 back you know at this stage it was we 89 00:02:02,610 --> 00:02:04,100 back you know at this stage it was we were talking about the poorest and what 90 00:02:04,100 --> 00:02:04,110 were talking about the poorest and what 91 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:06,050 were talking about the poorest and what could you have a big impact on them 92 00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:06,060 could you have a big impact on them 93 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:07,130 could you have a big impact on them where there are things that weren't 94 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:07,140 where there are things that weren't 95 00:02:07,140 --> 00:02:09,050 where there are things that weren't being done there was a lot we didn't 96 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:09,060 being done there was a lot we didn't 97 00:02:09,060 --> 00:02:11,630 being done there was a lot we didn't know our naivete is is pretty incredible 98 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:11,640 know our naivete is is pretty incredible 99 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:13,380 know our naivete is is pretty incredible when we look back on it but 100 00:02:13,380 --> 00:02:13,390 when we look back on it but 101 00:02:13,390 --> 00:02:14,910 when we look back on it but we had a certain enthusiasm that that 102 00:02:14,910 --> 00:02:14,920 we had a certain enthusiasm that that 103 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:18,510 we had a certain enthusiasm that that would be the the phase the the post 104 00:02:18,510 --> 00:02:18,520 would be the the phase the the post 105 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,330 would be the the phase the the post Microsoft phase would be our our 106 00:02:21,330 --> 00:02:21,340 Microsoft phase would be our our 107 00:02:21,340 --> 00:02:23,250 Microsoft phase would be our our flattened 108 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:23,260 flattened 109 00:02:23,260 --> 00:02:24,390 flattened yeah which bill always thought was gonna 110 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:24,400 yeah which bill always thought was gonna 111 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,580 yeah which bill always thought was gonna come after he was sixty so hasn't quite 112 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:26,590 come after he was sixty so hasn't quite 113 00:02:26,590 --> 00:02:29,430 come after he was sixty so hasn't quite hit sixty yet so some things change 114 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:29,440 hit sixty yet so some things change 115 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,770 hit sixty yet so some things change along the way oh it started there but it 116 00:02:31,770 --> 00:02:31,780 along the way oh it started there but it 117 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:33,480 along the way oh it started there but it got accelerated that was so that was 118 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:33,490 got accelerated that was so that was 119 00:02:33,490 --> 00:02:35,010 got accelerated that was so that was ninety three and then it was it was 120 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:35,020 ninety three and then it was it was 121 00:02:35,020 --> 00:02:36,030 ninety three and then it was it was ninety seven orally before the 122 00:02:36,030 --> 00:02:36,040 ninety seven orally before the 123 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,100 ninety seven orally before the foundation itself started yeah ninety 124 00:02:38,100 --> 00:02:38,110 foundation itself started yeah ninety 125 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:40,470 foundation itself started yeah ninety seven we read an article about died real 126 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:40,480 seven we read an article about died real 127 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 seven we read an article about died real diseases killing so many kids around the 128 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:42,970 diseases killing so many kids around the 129 00:02:42,970 --> 00:02:44,160 diseases killing so many kids around the world and we kept saying to ourselves 130 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:44,170 world and we kept saying to ourselves 131 00:02:44,170 --> 00:02:46,860 world and we kept saying to ourselves well that can't be in the US you just go 132 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:46,870 well that can't be in the US you just go 133 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:48,630 well that can't be in the US you just go down to the drugstore and so we started 134 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:48,640 down to the drugstore and so we started 135 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:50,580 down to the drugstore and so we started gathering scientists and started 136 00:02:50,580 --> 00:02:50,590 gathering scientists and started 137 00:02:50,590 --> 00:02:52,860 gathering scientists and started learning about population learning about 138 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:52,870 learning about population learning about 139 00:02:52,870 --> 00:02:54,900 learning about population learning about vaccines learning about what had worked 140 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:54,910 vaccines learning about what had worked 141 00:02:54,910 --> 00:02:57,210 vaccines learning about what had worked and what had failed and that's really 142 00:02:57,210 --> 00:02:57,220 and what had failed and that's really 143 00:02:57,220 --> 00:03:00,300 and what had failed and that's really when we got going was in late 1999 1988 144 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:00,310 when we got going was in late 1999 1988 145 00:03:00,310 --> 00:03:04,410 when we got going was in late 1999 1988 1999 so you've got a big pot of money 146 00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:04,420 1999 so you've got a big pot of money 147 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:06,930 1999 so you've got a big pot of money and a world full of so many different 148 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:06,940 and a world full of so many different 149 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:09,180 and a world full of so many different issues how on earth do you decide what 150 00:03:09,180 --> 00:03:09,190 issues how on earth do you decide what 151 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:12,930 issues how on earth do you decide what to focus on well we decided that we'd 152 00:03:12,930 --> 00:03:12,940 to focus on well we decided that we'd 153 00:03:12,940 --> 00:03:15,060 to focus on well we decided that we'd pick two causes whatever the biggest 154 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:15,070 pick two causes whatever the biggest 155 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:17,580 pick two causes whatever the biggest inequity was globally and there we 156 00:03:17,580 --> 00:03:17,590 inequity was globally and there we 157 00:03:17,590 --> 00:03:19,770 inequity was globally and there we looked at children dines children not 158 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:19,780 looked at children dines children not 159 00:03:19,780 --> 00:03:21,600 looked at children dines children not having enough nutrition to ever develop 160 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:21,610 having enough nutrition to ever develop 161 00:03:21,610 --> 00:03:23,370 having enough nutrition to ever develop and countries that were really stocked 162 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:23,380 and countries that were really stocked 163 00:03:23,380 --> 00:03:25,590 and countries that were really stocked because that with that level of death 164 00:03:25,590 --> 00:03:25,600 because that with that level of death 165 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,050 because that with that level of death and parents would have so many kids that 166 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:28,060 and parents would have so many kids that 167 00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:29,789 and parents would have so many kids that they get huge population growth and that 168 00:03:29,789 --> 00:03:29,799 they get huge population growth and that 169 00:03:29,799 --> 00:03:33,570 they get huge population growth and that the kids were so sick that they really 170 00:03:33,570 --> 00:03:33,580 the kids were so sick that they really 171 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:35,789 the kids were so sick that they really couldn't be educated and lift themselves 172 00:03:35,789 --> 00:03:35,799 couldn't be educated and lift themselves 173 00:03:35,799 --> 00:03:38,370 couldn't be educated and lift themselves up so that was our global thing and then 174 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:38,380 up so that was our global thing and then 175 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:42,060 up so that was our global thing and then in the US both of us have had amazing 176 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:42,070 in the US both of us have had amazing 177 00:03:42,070 --> 00:03:45,600 in the US both of us have had amazing education and we saw that as the the way 178 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:45,610 education and we saw that as the the way 179 00:03:45,610 --> 00:03:48,330 education and we saw that as the the way that the US could live up to its promise 180 00:03:48,330 --> 00:03:48,340 that the US could live up to its promise 181 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:50,550 that the US could live up to its promise of equal opportunities by having a 182 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:50,560 of equal opportunities by having a 183 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,130 of equal opportunities by having a phenomenal education system and the more 184 00:03:53,130 --> 00:03:53,140 phenomenal education system and the more 185 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:55,080 phenomenal education system and the more we learn the more we realize that we're 186 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,090 we learn the more we realize that we're 187 00:03:55,090 --> 00:03:57,360 we learn the more we realize that we're not really fulfilling that promise and 188 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:57,370 not really fulfilling that promise and 189 00:03:57,370 --> 00:03:58,940 not really fulfilling that promise and so we picked those two things and 190 00:03:58,940 --> 00:03:58,950 so we picked those two things and 191 00:03:58,950 --> 00:04:00,949 so we picked those two things and everything the foundation does are 192 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:00,959 everything the foundation does are 193 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:05,009 everything the foundation does are focused there so else to each of you to 194 00:04:05,009 --> 00:04:05,019 focused there so else to each of you to 195 00:04:05,019 --> 00:04:07,560 focused there so else to each of you to pick an image that that you like the 196 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:07,570 pick an image that that you like the 197 00:04:07,570 --> 00:04:09,210 pick an image that that you like the illustrates your work and Melinda this 198 00:04:09,210 --> 00:04:09,220 illustrates your work and Melinda this 199 00:04:09,220 --> 00:04:11,910 illustrates your work and Melinda this was this is what you've picked what's 200 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:11,920 was this is what you've picked what's 201 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,539 was this is what you've picked what's this about 202 00:04:12,539 --> 00:04:12,549 this about 203 00:04:12,549 --> 00:04:15,690 this about so I one of the things I love to do when 204 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:15,700 so I one of the things I love to do when 205 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:18,240 so I one of the things I love to do when I travel is to go out to the rural areas 206 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:18,250 I travel is to go out to the rural areas 207 00:04:18,250 --> 00:04:19,440 I travel is to go out to the rural areas and talk to the women whether it's 208 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,450 and talk to the women whether it's 209 00:04:19,450 --> 00:04:21,539 and talk to the women whether it's Bangladesh India lots of countries in 210 00:04:21,539 --> 00:04:21,549 Bangladesh India lots of countries in 211 00:04:21,549 --> 00:04:23,310 Bangladesh India lots of countries in Africa and I go in as a Western woman 212 00:04:23,310 --> 00:04:23,320 Africa and I go in as a Western woman 213 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,409 Africa and I go in as a Western woman without a name I don't tell them you 214 00:04:25,409 --> 00:04:25,419 without a name I don't tell them you 215 00:04:25,419 --> 00:04:26,030 without a name I don't tell them you know who I am 216 00:04:26,030 --> 00:04:26,040 know who I am 217 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,820 know who I am pair of khakis and I kept hearing from 218 00:04:28,820 --> 00:04:28,830 pair of khakis and I kept hearing from 219 00:04:28,830 --> 00:04:30,800 pair of khakis and I kept hearing from women over and over and over the more I 220 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:30,810 women over and over and over the more I 221 00:04:30,810 --> 00:04:34,010 women over and over and over the more I traveled I want to be able to use this 222 00:04:34,010 --> 00:04:34,020 traveled I want to be able to use this 223 00:04:34,020 --> 00:04:35,510 traveled I want to be able to use this shot I would there be there to talk to 224 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:35,520 shot I would there be there to talk to 225 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,400 shot I would there be there to talk to them about childhood vaccines and they 226 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:37,410 them about childhood vaccines and they 227 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:39,050 them about childhood vaccines and they would bring the conversation around - 228 00:04:39,050 --> 00:04:39,060 would bring the conversation around - 229 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:41,750 would bring the conversation around - but what about the shot I get which is 230 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:41,760 but what about the shot I get which is 231 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,130 but what about the shot I get which is an injection they were getting called 232 00:04:43,130 --> 00:04:43,140 an injection they were getting called 233 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:45,200 an injection they were getting called deep Rivera which is a contraceptive and 234 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,210 deep Rivera which is a contraceptive and 235 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:47,690 deep Rivera which is a contraceptive and I would come back and talk to global 236 00:04:47,690 --> 00:04:47,700 I would come back and talk to global 237 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:48,920 I would come back and talk to global health experts and they'd say oh no 238 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:48,930 health experts and they'd say oh no 239 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:50,870 health experts and they'd say oh no contraceptives are stocked in in the 240 00:04:50,870 --> 00:04:50,880 contraceptives are stocked in in the 241 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,420 contraceptives are stocked in in the developing world we had to dig deeper 242 00:04:53,420 --> 00:04:53,430 developing world we had to dig deeper 243 00:04:53,430 --> 00:04:54,830 developing world we had to dig deeper into the reports and this is what the 244 00:04:54,830 --> 00:04:54,840 into the reports and this is what the 245 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,840 into the reports and this is what the team came to me with which is to have 246 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:56,850 team came to me with which is to have 247 00:04:56,850 --> 00:04:58,760 team came to me with which is to have the number one thing that women tell you 248 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:58,770 the number one thing that women tell you 249 00:04:58,770 --> 00:05:01,760 the number one thing that women tell you in Africa they want to use stocked out 250 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:01,770 in Africa they want to use stocked out 251 00:05:01,770 --> 00:05:04,580 in Africa they want to use stocked out more than 200 days a year explains why 252 00:05:04,580 --> 00:05:04,590 more than 200 days a year explains why 253 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:07,130 more than 200 days a year explains why women were saying to me I walked 10 254 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:07,140 women were saying to me I walked 10 255 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:09,110 women were saying to me I walked 10 kilometres without my husband knowing it 256 00:05:09,110 --> 00:05:09,120 kilometres without my husband knowing it 257 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,910 kilometres without my husband knowing it and I got to the clinic and there was 258 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:10,920 and I got to the clinic and there was 259 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,230 and I got to the clinic and there was nothing there 260 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:12,240 nothing there 261 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,260 nothing there and so condoms were stocked in in Africa 262 00:05:15,260 --> 00:05:15,270 and so condoms were stocked in in Africa 263 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:17,390 and so condoms were stocked in in Africa because of all the aids work that the US 264 00:05:17,390 --> 00:05:17,400 because of all the aids work that the US 265 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,790 because of all the aids work that the US and others supported but women will tell 266 00:05:19,790 --> 00:05:19,800 and others supported but women will tell 267 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,290 and others supported but women will tell you over and over again I can't 268 00:05:21,290 --> 00:05:21,300 you over and over again I can't 269 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:23,210 you over and over again I can't negotiate a condom with my husband I'm 270 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:23,220 negotiate a condom with my husband I'm 271 00:05:23,220 --> 00:05:26,630 negotiate a condom with my husband I'm either suggesting he has AIDS or I have 272 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:26,640 either suggesting he has AIDS or I have 273 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,300 either suggesting he has AIDS or I have AIDS and I need that tool because then I 274 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:29,310 AIDS and I need that tool because then I 275 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:31,400 AIDS and I need that tool because then I can space the births of my children and 276 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:31,410 can space the births of my children and 277 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:33,500 can space the births of my children and I can feed them and have a chance of 278 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:33,510 I can feed them and have a chance of 279 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:36,740 I can feed them and have a chance of educating them Melinda your Roman 280 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:36,750 educating them Melinda your Roman 281 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:40,640 educating them Melinda your Roman Catholic and you've often been embroiled 282 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:40,650 Catholic and you've often been embroiled 283 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:43,430 Catholic and you've often been embroiled in controversy over this issue and on 284 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:43,440 in controversy over this issue and on 285 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,620 in controversy over this issue and on the abortion question on both sides 286 00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:45,630 the abortion question on both sides 287 00:05:45,630 --> 00:05:48,530 the abortion question on both sides really how do you navigate that yeah so 288 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:48,540 really how do you navigate that yeah so 289 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:51,140 really how do you navigate that yeah so I think that's a really important point 290 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:51,150 I think that's a really important point 291 00:05:51,150 --> 00:05:53,290 I think that's a really important point which is we had backed away from 292 00:05:53,290 --> 00:05:53,300 which is we had backed away from 293 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:55,580 which is we had backed away from contraceptives as a global community we 294 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:55,590 contraceptives as a global community we 295 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:59,300 contraceptives as a global community we knew that 210 million women were saying 296 00:05:59,300 --> 00:05:59,310 knew that 210 million women were saying 297 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:00,980 knew that 210 million women were saying they wanted access to contraceptives 298 00:06:00,980 --> 00:06:00,990 they wanted access to contraceptives 299 00:06:00,990 --> 00:06:02,540 they wanted access to contraceptives even the contraceptives we have here in 300 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:02,550 even the contraceptives we have here in 301 00:06:02,550 --> 00:06:05,210 even the contraceptives we have here in the United States and we weren't 302 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:05,220 the United States and we weren't 303 00:06:05,220 --> 00:06:07,370 the United States and we weren't providing them because of the political 304 00:06:07,370 --> 00:06:07,380 providing them because of the political 305 00:06:07,380 --> 00:06:10,430 providing them because of the political controversy in our country and to me 306 00:06:10,430 --> 00:06:10,440 controversy in our country and to me 307 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,280 controversy in our country and to me that was just a crime and I kept looking 308 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:13,290 that was just a crime and I kept looking 309 00:06:13,290 --> 00:06:14,810 that was just a crime and I kept looking around trying to find the person that 310 00:06:14,810 --> 00:06:14,820 around trying to find the person that 311 00:06:14,820 --> 00:06:16,430 around trying to find the person that would get this back on the global stage 312 00:06:16,430 --> 00:06:16,440 would get this back on the global stage 313 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,740 would get this back on the global stage and I finally realized I just had to do 314 00:06:18,740 --> 00:06:18,750 and I finally realized I just had to do 315 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:20,690 and I finally realized I just had to do it and even though I'm Catholic 316 00:06:20,690 --> 00:06:20,700 it and even though I'm Catholic 317 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:22,730 it and even though I'm Catholic I believe in contraceptives just like 318 00:06:22,730 --> 00:06:22,740 I believe in contraceptives just like 319 00:06:22,740 --> 00:06:24,350 I believe in contraceptives just like most of the Catholic women the United 320 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:24,360 most of the Catholic women the United 321 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,030 most of the Catholic women the United States who report using contraceptives 322 00:06:26,030 --> 00:06:26,040 States who report using contraceptives 323 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,790 States who report using contraceptives and I shouldn't let that controversy be 324 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:28,800 and I shouldn't let that controversy be 325 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,920 and I shouldn't let that controversy be the thing that holds us back we used to 326 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:30,930 the thing that holds us back we used to 327 00:06:30,930 --> 00:06:32,360 the thing that holds us back we used to have consensus in the United States 328 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:32,370 have consensus in the United States 329 00:06:32,370 --> 00:06:35,030 have consensus in the United States around contraceptives and so we got back 330 00:06:35,030 --> 00:06:35,040 around contraceptives and so we got back 331 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,830 around contraceptives and so we got back to that global consensus and actually 332 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:36,840 to that global consensus and actually 333 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,840 to that global consensus and actually raised two point six billion dollars 334 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:38,850 raised two point six billion dollars 335 00:06:38,850 --> 00:06:39,590 raised two point six billion dollars around exact 336 00:06:39,590 --> 00:06:39,600 around exact 337 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:48,730 around exact this issue for women 338 00:06:48,730 --> 00:06:48,740 339 00:06:48,740 --> 00:06:52,450 no this is your broth what's this about 340 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:52,460 no this is your broth what's this about 341 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:55,310 no this is your broth what's this about yeah well my graph has numbers on it I 342 00:06:55,310 --> 00:06:55,320 yeah well my graph has numbers on it I 343 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,680 yeah well my graph has numbers on it I really like this graph this is the the 344 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:00,690 really like this graph this is the the 345 00:07:00,690 --> 00:07:02,960 really like this graph this is the the number of children who died before the 346 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:02,970 number of children who died before the 347 00:07:02,970 --> 00:07:05,660 number of children who died before the age of five every year and what you find 348 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:05,670 age of five every year and what you find 349 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:07,520 age of five every year and what you find is you know really a phenomenal success 350 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:07,530 is you know really a phenomenal success 351 00:07:07,530 --> 00:07:11,090 is you know really a phenomenal success story which is not widely known that we 352 00:07:11,090 --> 00:07:11,100 story which is not widely known that we 353 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:13,580 story which is not widely known that we are making incredible progress we go 354 00:07:13,580 --> 00:07:13,590 are making incredible progress we go 355 00:07:13,590 --> 00:07:17,300 are making incredible progress we go from 20 million not long after I was 356 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:17,310 from 20 million not long after I was 357 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:20,090 from 20 million not long after I was born to now we're down to about 6 358 00:07:20,090 --> 00:07:20,100 born to now we're down to about 6 359 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:23,660 born to now we're down to about 6 million so this is a story largely 360 00:07:23,660 --> 00:07:23,670 million so this is a story largely 361 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:26,240 million so this is a story largely vaccines smallpox was killing a couple 362 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,250 vaccines smallpox was killing a couple 363 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:29,090 vaccines smallpox was killing a couple nine kids here that was eradicated so 364 00:07:29,090 --> 00:07:29,100 nine kids here that was eradicated so 365 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:30,740 nine kids here that was eradicated so that got down to zero measles was 366 00:07:30,740 --> 00:07:30,750 that got down to zero measles was 367 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:32,030 that got down to zero measles was killing a couple million a year that's 368 00:07:32,030 --> 00:07:32,040 killing a couple million a year that's 369 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,100 killing a couple million a year that's down to a few hundred thousand anyway 370 00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:34,110 down to a few hundred thousand anyway 371 00:07:34,110 --> 00:07:36,110 down to a few hundred thousand anyway it's this is a chart where you want to 372 00:07:36,110 --> 00:07:36,120 it's this is a chart where you want to 373 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,750 it's this is a chart where you want to you know get that that number to 374 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:38,760 you know get that that number to 375 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,360 you know get that that number to continue and it's going to be possible 376 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:41,370 continue and it's going to be possible 377 00:07:41,370 --> 00:07:43,580 continue and it's going to be possible using science of new vaccines getting 378 00:07:43,580 --> 00:07:43,590 using science of new vaccines getting 379 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:46,010 using science of new vaccines getting the vaccines out to kids we can actually 380 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:46,020 the vaccines out to kids we can actually 381 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,980 the vaccines out to kids we can actually accelerate the products last decade that 382 00:07:47,980 --> 00:07:47,990 accelerate the products last decade that 383 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:51,140 accelerate the products last decade that numbers dropped faster than ever in 384 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:51,150 numbers dropped faster than ever in 385 00:07:51,150 --> 00:07:54,470 numbers dropped faster than ever in history and you know so I just love the 386 00:07:54,470 --> 00:07:54,480 history and you know so I just love the 387 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 history and you know so I just love the fact that you can say okay if we can 388 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:56,490 fact that you can say okay if we can 389 00:07:56,490 --> 00:07:58,370 fact that you can say okay if we can invent new vaccines we can get them out 390 00:07:58,370 --> 00:07:58,380 invent new vaccines we can get them out 391 00:07:58,380 --> 00:08:00,290 invent new vaccines we can get them out there use the very latest understanding 392 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:00,300 there use the very latest understanding 393 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:02,750 there use the very latest understanding of these things and get the delivery 394 00:08:02,750 --> 00:08:02,760 of these things and get the delivery 395 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,110 of these things and get the delivery right that we can perform a miracle I 396 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:06,120 right that we can perform a miracle I 397 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,400 right that we can perform a miracle I mean you do the math on this and it 398 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:07,410 mean you do the math on this and it 399 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:09,260 mean you do the math on this and it works out I think that literally 400 00:08:09,260 --> 00:08:09,270 works out I think that literally 401 00:08:09,270 --> 00:08:11,300 works out I think that literally thousands of kids lives saved every day 402 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:11,310 thousands of kids lives saved every day 403 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:14,150 thousands of kids lives saved every day compared to the prior year it's and it's 404 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:14,160 compared to the prior year it's and it's 405 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,160 compared to the prior year it's and it's not reported you know an airliner with 406 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:16,170 not reported you know an airliner with 407 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:19,070 not reported you know an airliner with 200 plus you know deaths ISM far far 408 00:08:19,070 --> 00:08:19,080 200 plus you know deaths ISM far far 409 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,840 200 plus you know deaths ISM far far bigger story then than that does that 410 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:20,850 bigger story then than that does that 411 00:08:20,850 --> 00:08:21,890 bigger story then than that does that drive you crazy 412 00:08:21,890 --> 00:08:21,900 drive you crazy 413 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:24,800 drive you crazy yeah it's because it's a silent thing 414 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:24,810 yeah it's because it's a silent thing 415 00:08:24,810 --> 00:08:26,740 yeah it's because it's a silent thing going on it's a kid one kid at a time 416 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:26,750 going on it's a kid one kid at a time 417 00:08:26,750 --> 00:08:29,930 going on it's a kid one kid at a time you know this 98% of this has nothing to 418 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:29,940 you know this 98% of this has nothing to 419 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:31,310 you know this 98% of this has nothing to do with natural disasters and yet 420 00:08:31,310 --> 00:08:31,320 do with natural disasters and yet 421 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,290 do with natural disasters and yet people's charity when they see an 422 00:08:33,290 --> 00:08:33,300 people's charity when they see an 423 00:08:33,300 --> 00:08:35,330 people's charity when they see an abscess are wonderful it's incredible 424 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:35,340 abscess are wonderful it's incredible 425 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,430 abscess are wonderful it's incredible how people think okay that could be me 426 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:37,440 how people think okay that could be me 427 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,980 how people think okay that could be me and that the money flows these causes 428 00:08:39,980 --> 00:08:39,990 and that the money flows these causes 429 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:43,940 and that the money flows these causes have been a bit invisible now that the 430 00:08:43,940 --> 00:08:43,950 have been a bit invisible now that the 431 00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:45,410 have been a bit invisible now that the Millennium Development Goals various 432 00:08:45,410 --> 00:08:45,420 Millennium Development Goals various 433 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:46,580 Millennium Development Goals various things are getting out there we are 434 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:46,590 things are getting out there we are 435 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:49,460 things are getting out there we are seeing some increased generosity and so 436 00:08:49,460 --> 00:08:49,470 seeing some increased generosity and so 437 00:08:49,470 --> 00:08:51,710 seeing some increased generosity and so you know the goal is to get this well 438 00:08:51,710 --> 00:08:51,720 you know the goal is to get this well 439 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,630 you know the goal is to get this well below a million which should be possible 440 00:08:53,630 --> 00:08:53,640 below a million which should be possible 441 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,090 below a million which should be possible in our lifetime maybe it needed someone 442 00:08:56,090 --> 00:08:56,100 in our lifetime maybe it needed someone 443 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:57,920 in our lifetime maybe it needed someone who is turned on by numbers and graphs 444 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:57,930 who is turned on by numbers and graphs 445 00:08:57,930 --> 00:08:58,930 who is turned on by numbers and graphs rather than 446 00:08:58,930 --> 00:08:58,940 rather than 447 00:08:58,940 --> 00:09:02,080 rather than the big sad face - to get engaged 448 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,090 the big sad face - to get engaged 449 00:09:02,090 --> 00:09:03,460 the big sad face - to get engaged I mean you've used it in your letter 450 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:03,470 I mean you've used it in your letter 451 00:09:03,470 --> 00:09:05,230 I mean you've used it in your letter this year you used basically this 452 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:05,240 this year you used basically this 453 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,080 this year you used basically this argument to say that aid contrary to the 454 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,090 argument to say that aid contrary to the 455 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:10,570 argument to say that aid contrary to the current meme that a you know aid is kind 456 00:09:10,570 --> 00:09:10,580 current meme that a you know aid is kind 457 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:12,850 current meme that a you know aid is kind of worthless and broken but actually it 458 00:09:12,850 --> 00:09:12,860 of worthless and broken but actually it 459 00:09:12,860 --> 00:09:15,040 of worthless and broken but actually it has been effective yeah well people can 460 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:15,050 has been effective yeah well people can 461 00:09:15,050 --> 00:09:18,730 has been effective yeah well people can take that there is some aid that was 462 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:18,740 take that there is some aid that was 463 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:21,280 take that there is some aid that was well-meaning and didn't go well you know 464 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:21,290 well-meaning and didn't go well you know 465 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:23,320 well-meaning and didn't go well you know there's some venture capital investments 466 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:23,330 there's some venture capital investments 467 00:09:23,330 --> 00:09:24,850 there's some venture capital investments that were well-meaning and Dinko well 468 00:09:24,850 --> 00:09:24,860 that were well-meaning and Dinko well 469 00:09:24,860 --> 00:09:27,430 that were well-meaning and Dinko well that you shouldn't just say okay because 470 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:27,440 that you shouldn't just say okay because 471 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,830 that you shouldn't just say okay because of that you know because we don't have a 472 00:09:29,830 --> 00:09:29,840 of that you know because we don't have a 473 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,310 of that you know because we don't have a perfect record this is a bad endeavor 474 00:09:33,310 --> 00:09:33,320 perfect record this is a bad endeavor 475 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,750 perfect record this is a bad endeavor you should look at you know what was 476 00:09:34,750 --> 00:09:34,760 you should look at you know what was 477 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,900 you should look at you know what was your goal how are you trying to uplift 478 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:36,910 your goal how are you trying to uplift 479 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:41,590 your goal how are you trying to uplift nutrition and survival and literacy so 480 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:41,600 nutrition and survival and literacy so 481 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,790 nutrition and survival and literacy so these countries can take care of 482 00:09:42,790 --> 00:09:42,800 these countries can take care of 483 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,170 these countries can take care of themselves and say wow this is going 484 00:09:44,170 --> 00:09:44,180 themselves and say wow this is going 485 00:09:44,180 --> 00:09:47,470 themselves and say wow this is going well and be smarter we we can't spend 486 00:09:47,470 --> 00:09:47,480 well and be smarter we we can't spend 487 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,670 well and be smarter we we can't spend aid smarter it is not all a panacea we 488 00:09:51,670 --> 00:09:51,680 aid smarter it is not all a panacea we 489 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:53,140 aid smarter it is not all a panacea we can do better than metric capital I 490 00:09:53,140 --> 00:09:53,150 can do better than metric capital I 491 00:09:53,150 --> 00:09:55,810 can do better than metric capital I think you know including big hits like 492 00:09:55,810 --> 00:09:55,820 think you know including big hits like 493 00:09:55,820 --> 00:10:00,160 think you know including big hits like this the traditional wisdom is that it's 494 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:00,170 this the traditional wisdom is that it's 495 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:02,440 this the traditional wisdom is that it's pretty hard for married couples to work 496 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:02,450 pretty hard for married couples to work 497 00:10:02,450 --> 00:10:07,300 pretty hard for married couples to work together now have you guys managed it I 498 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:07,310 together now have you guys managed it I 499 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:08,800 together now have you guys managed it I really don't think I could work with my 500 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:08,810 really don't think I could work with my 501 00:10:08,810 --> 00:10:11,230 really don't think I could work with my husband I just wouldn't work out um you 502 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:11,240 husband I just wouldn't work out um you 503 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,190 husband I just wouldn't work out um you know we enjoy it and we don't this 504 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:15,200 know we enjoy it and we don't this 505 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,200 know we enjoy it and we don't this foundation has been a coming too for 506 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:17,210 foundation has been a coming too for 507 00:10:17,210 --> 00:10:19,090 foundation has been a coming too for both of us at its continuous learning 508 00:10:19,090 --> 00:10:19,100 both of us at its continuous learning 509 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:22,750 both of us at its continuous learning journey and we don't travel together as 510 00:10:22,750 --> 00:10:22,760 journey and we don't travel together as 511 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,520 journey and we don't travel together as much for the foundation actually as we 512 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:24,530 much for the foundation actually as we 513 00:10:24,530 --> 00:10:25,780 much for the foundation actually as we used to and Bill was working at 514 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:25,790 used to and Bill was working at 515 00:10:25,790 --> 00:10:27,580 used to and Bill was working at Microsoft we have more trips we're 516 00:10:27,580 --> 00:10:27,590 Microsoft we have more trips we're 517 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:30,100 Microsoft we have more trips we're traveling separately but I always know 518 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:30,110 traveling separately but I always know 519 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:31,480 traveling separately but I always know when I come home Bill's gonna be 520 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:31,490 when I come home Bill's gonna be 521 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:33,040 when I come home Bill's gonna be interested in what I learned whether 522 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:33,050 interested in what I learned whether 523 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:35,440 interested in what I learned whether it's about women or girls or something 524 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:35,450 it's about women or girls or something 525 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:37,450 it's about women or girls or something new about the vaccine delivery chain or 526 00:10:37,450 --> 00:10:37,460 new about the vaccine delivery chain or 527 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:39,850 new about the vaccine delivery chain or this person that is a great leader he's 528 00:10:39,850 --> 00:10:39,860 this person that is a great leader he's 529 00:10:39,860 --> 00:10:41,800 this person that is a great leader he's gonna listen and be really interested 530 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:41,810 gonna listen and be really interested 531 00:10:41,810 --> 00:10:44,050 gonna listen and be really interested and he knows when he comes home even if 532 00:10:44,050 --> 00:10:44,060 and he knows when he comes home even if 533 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,730 and he knows when he comes home even if it's to talk about the speech he did or 534 00:10:45,730 --> 00:10:45,740 it's to talk about the speech he did or 535 00:10:45,740 --> 00:10:47,980 it's to talk about the speech he did or the data what he's learned I'm really 536 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:47,990 the data what he's learned I'm really 537 00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:49,450 the data what he's learned I'm really interested and I think we have a really 538 00:10:49,450 --> 00:10:49,460 interested and I think we have a really 539 00:10:49,460 --> 00:10:51,700 interested and I think we have a really collaborative relationship but we don't 540 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:51,710 collaborative relationship but we don't 541 00:10:51,710 --> 00:10:53,200 collaborative relationship but we don't spend every minute together that's for 542 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,210 spend every minute together that's for 543 00:10:53,210 --> 00:10:53,610 spend every minute together that's for sure 544 00:10:53,610 --> 00:10:53,620 sure 545 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:57,440 sure [Laughter] 546 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:57,450 [Laughter] 547 00:10:57,450 --> 00:10:59,730 [Laughter] but now you are and we're very happy - 548 00:10:59,730 --> 00:10:59,740 but now you are and we're very happy - 549 00:10:59,740 --> 00:11:03,720 but now you are and we're very happy - you are I mean early on you you were you 550 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:03,730 you are I mean early on you you were you 551 00:11:03,730 --> 00:11:05,660 you are I mean early on you you were you were basically largely running the show 552 00:11:05,660 --> 00:11:05,670 were basically largely running the show 553 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:08,940 were basically largely running the show six years ago I guess bill came on 554 00:11:08,940 --> 00:11:08,950 six years ago I guess bill came on 555 00:11:08,950 --> 00:11:10,380 six years ago I guess bill came on full-time so I moved from Microsoft and 556 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:10,390 full-time so I moved from Microsoft and 557 00:11:10,390 --> 00:11:11,730 full-time so I moved from Microsoft and became full-time that must have been 558 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:11,740 became full-time that must have been 559 00:11:11,740 --> 00:11:14,850 became full-time that must have been hard adjusting to that now yeah I think 560 00:11:14,850 --> 00:11:14,860 hard adjusting to that now yeah I think 561 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:18,120 hard adjusting to that now yeah I think I think actually for the foundation 562 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:18,130 I think actually for the foundation 563 00:11:18,130 --> 00:11:20,850 I think actually for the foundation employees there was a there was way more 564 00:11:20,850 --> 00:11:20,860 employees there was a there was way more 565 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:22,650 employees there was a there was way more arcs for them than the rest for me about 566 00:11:22,650 --> 00:11:22,660 arcs for them than the rest for me about 567 00:11:22,660 --> 00:11:23,820 arcs for them than the rest for me about Bill coming I was actually really 568 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:23,830 Bill coming I was actually really 569 00:11:23,830 --> 00:11:25,890 Bill coming I was actually really excited I mean bill made this decision 570 00:11:25,890 --> 00:11:25,900 excited I mean bill made this decision 571 00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:27,540 excited I mean bill made this decision even obviously before it got announced 572 00:11:27,540 --> 00:11:27,550 even obviously before it got announced 573 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:30,540 even obviously before it got announced in 2006 and it was really his decision 574 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:30,550 in 2006 and it was really his decision 575 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:32,520 in 2006 and it was really his decision but again it was a beach vacation where 576 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:32,530 but again it was a beach vacation where 577 00:11:32,530 --> 00:11:33,930 but again it was a beach vacation where we were walking on the beach and he was 578 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:33,940 we were walking on the beach and he was 579 00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:36,540 we were walking on the beach and he was starting to think of this idea and for 580 00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:36,550 starting to think of this idea and for 581 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:38,850 starting to think of this idea and for me the excitement of bill putting his 582 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:38,860 me the excitement of bill putting his 583 00:11:38,860 --> 00:11:42,360 me the excitement of bill putting his brain and his heart against these huge 584 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:42,370 brain and his heart against these huge 585 00:11:42,370 --> 00:11:44,730 brain and his heart against these huge global problems these inequities to me 586 00:11:44,730 --> 00:11:44,740 global problems these inequities to me 587 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:46,800 global problems these inequities to me that was exciting yes the foundation 588 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:46,810 that was exciting yes the foundation 589 00:11:46,810 --> 00:11:54,600 that was exciting yes the foundation employees had asked about that three 590 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:54,610 employees had asked about that three 591 00:11:54,610 --> 00:11:56,760 employees had asked about that three months once he was there including some 592 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:56,770 months once he was there including some 593 00:11:56,770 --> 00:12:08,820 months once he was there including some of the employees what you guys argue 594 00:12:08,820 --> 00:12:08,830 of the employees what you guys argue 595 00:12:08,830 --> 00:12:11,190 of the employees what you guys argue about like you know Sunday 11 o'clock 596 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:11,200 about like you know Sunday 11 o'clock 597 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,320 about like you know Sunday 11 o'clock you're away from a you know what what 598 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:13,330 you're away from a you know what what 599 00:12:13,330 --> 00:12:16,050 you're away from a you know what what comes up what's the argument you know 600 00:12:16,050 --> 00:12:16,060 comes up what's the argument you know 601 00:12:16,060 --> 00:12:17,790 comes up what's the argument you know because we built this thing together 602 00:12:17,790 --> 00:12:17,800 because we built this thing together 603 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,120 because we built this thing together from the beginning it's this great 604 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,130 from the beginning it's this great 605 00:12:21,130 --> 00:12:23,340 from the beginning it's this great partnership you know I I had that with 606 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:23,350 partnership you know I I had that with 607 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:24,660 partnership you know I I had that with Paul Allen in the early days of 608 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:24,670 Paul Allen in the early days of 609 00:12:24,670 --> 00:12:27,120 Paul Allen in the early days of Microsoft I had it with Steve Ballmer as 610 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:27,130 Microsoft I had it with Steve Ballmer as 611 00:12:27,130 --> 00:12:30,420 Microsoft I had it with Steve Ballmer as Microsoft got bigger and now Melinda in 612 00:12:30,420 --> 00:12:30,430 Microsoft got bigger and now Melinda in 613 00:12:30,430 --> 00:12:33,060 Microsoft got bigger and now Melinda in an even stronger equal ways is the 614 00:12:33,060 --> 00:12:33,070 an even stronger equal ways is the 615 00:12:33,070 --> 00:12:35,340 an even stronger equal ways is the partner so we talked a lot about which 616 00:12:35,340 --> 00:12:35,350 partner so we talked a lot about which 617 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:37,560 partner so we talked a lot about which things should we give more to which 618 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:37,570 things should we give more to which 619 00:12:37,570 --> 00:12:40,500 things should we give more to which groups are working well you know she's 620 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:40,510 groups are working well you know she's 621 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:41,940 groups are working well you know she's got a lot of insights she'll sit down on 622 00:12:41,940 --> 00:12:41,950 got a lot of insights she'll sit down on 623 00:12:41,950 --> 00:12:43,440 got a lot of insights she'll sit down on the employees a lot will take the 624 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:43,450 the employees a lot will take the 625 00:12:43,450 --> 00:12:45,240 the employees a lot will take the different trips she described so there's 626 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:45,250 different trips she described so there's 627 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:49,440 different trips she described so there's a lot of collaboration I can't think of 628 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,450 a lot of collaboration I can't think of 629 00:12:49,450 --> 00:12:51,360 a lot of collaboration I can't think of anything where one of us had a you know 630 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:51,370 anything where one of us had a you know 631 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:54,720 anything where one of us had a you know super strong opinion but you know about 632 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:54,730 super strong opinion but you know about 633 00:12:54,730 --> 00:12:56,100 super strong opinion but you know about one thing or another how about you 634 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:56,110 one thing or another how about you 635 00:12:56,110 --> 00:12:59,760 one thing or another how about you Melinda though can you never know well 636 00:12:59,760 --> 00:12:59,770 Melinda though can you never know well 637 00:12:59,770 --> 00:13:01,710 Melinda though can you never know well we well here's the thing we comment 638 00:13:01,710 --> 00:13:01,720 we well here's the thing we comment 639 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,120 we well here's the thing we comment things from different angles and I 640 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,130 things from different angles and I 641 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:05,010 things from different angles and I actually think that's really good so 642 00:13:05,010 --> 00:13:05,020 actually think that's really good so 643 00:13:05,020 --> 00:13:07,079 actually think that's really good so bill can look at the big data 644 00:13:07,079 --> 00:13:07,089 bill can look at the big data 645 00:13:07,089 --> 00:13:08,819 bill can look at the big data and say I want to act based on these 646 00:13:08,819 --> 00:13:08,829 and say I want to act based on these 647 00:13:08,829 --> 00:13:10,889 and say I want to act based on these global statistics for me I come at it 648 00:13:10,889 --> 00:13:10,899 global statistics for me I come at it 649 00:13:10,899 --> 00:13:12,569 global statistics for me I come at it from intuition I meet with lots of 650 00:13:12,569 --> 00:13:12,579 from intuition I meet with lots of 651 00:13:12,579 --> 00:13:14,610 from intuition I meet with lots of people on the ground and Bill's taught 652 00:13:14,610 --> 00:13:14,620 people on the ground and Bill's taught 653 00:13:14,620 --> 00:13:16,829 people on the ground and Bill's taught me to take that and read up to the 654 00:13:16,829 --> 00:13:16,839 me to take that and read up to the 655 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:18,420 me to take that and read up to the global data and see if they match and I 656 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:18,430 global data and see if they match and I 657 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:19,769 global data and see if they match and I think what I've taught him is to take 658 00:13:19,769 --> 00:13:19,779 think what I've taught him is to take 659 00:13:19,779 --> 00:13:21,749 think what I've taught him is to take that data and meet with people on the 660 00:13:21,749 --> 00:13:21,759 that data and meet with people on the 661 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:23,460 that data and meet with people on the ground to understand can you actually 662 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:23,470 ground to understand can you actually 663 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:26,009 ground to understand can you actually deliver that vaccine can you get a woman 664 00:13:26,009 --> 00:13:26,019 deliver that vaccine can you get a woman 665 00:13:26,019 --> 00:13:28,410 deliver that vaccine can you get a woman to accept those polio drops in her 666 00:13:28,410 --> 00:13:28,420 to accept those polio drops in her 667 00:13:28,420 --> 00:13:30,480 to accept those polio drops in her child's mouth because the delivery piece 668 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:30,490 child's mouth because the delivery piece 669 00:13:30,490 --> 00:13:32,939 child's mouth because the delivery piece is every bit as important as the science 670 00:13:32,939 --> 00:13:32,949 is every bit as important as the science 671 00:13:32,949 --> 00:13:34,889 is every bit as important as the science so I think it's been more a-coming to 672 00:13:34,889 --> 00:13:34,899 so I think it's been more a-coming to 673 00:13:34,899 --> 00:13:36,749 so I think it's been more a-coming to over time towards each other's point of 674 00:13:36,749 --> 00:13:36,759 over time towards each other's point of 675 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:38,100 over time towards each other's point of view and quite frankly the work is 676 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:38,110 view and quite frankly the work is 677 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:39,389 view and quite frankly the work is better because of it 678 00:13:39,389 --> 00:13:39,399 better because of it 679 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:41,999 better because of it so I mean in fact seeds in polio and and 680 00:13:41,999 --> 00:13:42,009 so I mean in fact seeds in polio and and 681 00:13:42,009 --> 00:13:45,410 so I mean in fact seeds in polio and and so forth you have some amazing successes 682 00:13:45,410 --> 00:13:45,420 so forth you have some amazing successes 683 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:47,819 so forth you have some amazing successes what about failure though can you talk 684 00:13:47,819 --> 00:13:47,829 what about failure though can you talk 685 00:13:47,829 --> 00:13:49,799 what about failure though can you talk about a failure and maybe what you've 686 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:49,809 about a failure and maybe what you've 687 00:13:49,809 --> 00:13:50,879 about a failure and maybe what you've learned from it 688 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:50,889 learned from it 689 00:13:50,889 --> 00:13:52,860 learned from it yeah poor chily we can afford a few 690 00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:52,870 yeah poor chily we can afford a few 691 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:54,749 yeah poor chily we can afford a few failures because we've certainly had 692 00:13:54,749 --> 00:13:54,759 failures because we've certainly had 693 00:13:54,759 --> 00:13:59,309 failures because we've certainly had them we do a lot of you know drug work 694 00:13:59,309 --> 00:13:59,319 them we do a lot of you know drug work 695 00:13:59,319 --> 00:14:01,410 them we do a lot of you know drug work or vaccine work that you know you're 696 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:01,420 or vaccine work that you know you're 697 00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:03,689 or vaccine work that you know you're you're gonna have different pills like 698 00:14:03,689 --> 00:14:03,699 you're gonna have different pills like 699 00:14:03,699 --> 00:14:05,460 you're gonna have different pills like we put out one that got a lot of 700 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:05,470 we put out one that got a lot of 701 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:07,170 we put out one that got a lot of publicity was asking for a better condom 702 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:07,180 publicity was asking for a better condom 703 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,090 publicity was asking for a better condom well we got hundreds of ideas maybe a 704 00:14:09,090 --> 00:14:09,100 well we got hundreds of ideas maybe a 705 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:12,540 well we got hundreds of ideas maybe a few of those will work out we were very 706 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:12,550 few of those will work out we were very 707 00:14:12,550 --> 00:14:15,569 few of those will work out we were very naive certainly I was about a drug for a 708 00:14:15,569 --> 00:14:15,579 naive certainly I was about a drug for a 709 00:14:15,579 --> 00:14:17,059 naive certainly I was about a drug for a disease in India visceral leishmaniasis 710 00:14:17,059 --> 00:14:17,069 disease in India visceral leishmaniasis 711 00:14:17,069 --> 00:14:19,499 disease in India visceral leishmaniasis that I thought once we got this drug we 712 00:14:19,499 --> 00:14:19,509 that I thought once we got this drug we 713 00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:21,030 that I thought once we got this drug we can just go wipe out the disease well 714 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:21,040 can just go wipe out the disease well 715 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,790 can just go wipe out the disease well turns out it took an injection every day 716 00:14:23,790 --> 00:14:23,800 turns out it took an injection every day 717 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,489 turns out it took an injection every day for ten days it took three more years to 718 00:14:26,489 --> 00:14:26,499 for ten days it took three more years to 719 00:14:26,499 --> 00:14:28,350 for ten days it took three more years to get it than we expected and then there 720 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:28,360 get it than we expected and then there 721 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,009 get it than we expected and then there was no way it was gonna get out there 722 00:14:31,009 --> 00:14:31,019 was no way it was gonna get out there 723 00:14:31,019 --> 00:14:33,840 was no way it was gonna get out there fortunately we found out that if you go 724 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:33,850 fortunately we found out that if you go 725 00:14:33,850 --> 00:14:37,230 fortunately we found out that if you go kill the sandflies you probably can have 726 00:14:37,230 --> 00:14:37,240 kill the sandflies you probably can have 727 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,689 kill the sandflies you probably can have success there but we spent five years 728 00:14:38,689 --> 00:14:38,699 success there but we spent five years 729 00:14:38,699 --> 00:14:41,069 success there but we spent five years you could say wasted five years and 730 00:14:41,069 --> 00:14:41,079 you could say wasted five years and 731 00:14:41,079 --> 00:14:43,829 you could say wasted five years and about 60 million on a path that turned 732 00:14:43,829 --> 00:14:43,839 about 60 million on a path that turned 733 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:47,850 about 60 million on a path that turned out to have very modest benefit when we 734 00:14:47,850 --> 00:14:47,860 out to have very modest benefit when we 735 00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:51,389 out to have very modest benefit when we got there you're spending like a billion 736 00:14:51,389 --> 00:14:51,399 got there you're spending like a billion 737 00:14:51,399 --> 00:14:53,009 got there you're spending like a billion dollars a year in education I think 738 00:14:53,009 --> 00:14:53,019 dollars a year in education I think 739 00:14:53,019 --> 00:14:55,499 dollars a year in education I think something like that any any there's 740 00:14:55,499 --> 00:14:55,509 something like that any any there's 741 00:14:55,509 --> 00:14:57,569 something like that any any there's anything I mean the story of what's gone 742 00:14:57,569 --> 00:14:57,579 anything I mean the story of what's gone 743 00:14:57,579 --> 00:14:59,759 anything I mean the story of what's gone right there is quite a long and complex 744 00:14:59,759 --> 00:14:59,769 right there is quite a long and complex 745 00:14:59,769 --> 00:15:00,179 right there is quite a long and complex one 746 00:15:00,179 --> 00:15:00,189 one 747 00:15:00,189 --> 00:15:03,239 one are there any failures that you couldn't 748 00:15:03,239 --> 00:15:03,249 are there any failures that you couldn't 749 00:15:03,249 --> 00:15:05,340 are there any failures that you couldn't talk about well I would say a huge 750 00:15:05,340 --> 00:15:05,350 talk about well I would say a huge 751 00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:07,019 talk about well I would say a huge lesson for us out of the early work is 752 00:15:07,019 --> 00:15:07,029 lesson for us out of the early work is 753 00:15:07,029 --> 00:15:09,030 lesson for us out of the early work is we thought that these small schools were 754 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:09,040 we thought that these small schools were 755 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,040 we thought that these small schools were the answer and small schools definitely 756 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:11,050 the answer and small schools definitely 757 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:12,449 the answer and small schools definitely helped they bring down the dropout rate 758 00:15:12,449 --> 00:15:12,459 helped they bring down the dropout rate 759 00:15:12,459 --> 00:15:14,730 helped they bring down the dropout rate they have less violence and crime in 760 00:15:14,730 --> 00:15:14,740 they have less violence and crime in 761 00:15:14,740 --> 00:15:16,530 they have less violence and crime in those schools but the thing that we 762 00:15:16,530 --> 00:15:16,540 those schools but the thing that we 763 00:15:16,540 --> 00:15:18,360 those schools but the thing that we learned from that work and what turned 764 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:18,370 learned from that work and what turned 765 00:15:18,370 --> 00:15:20,020 learned from that work and what turned out to be the fundamental key 766 00:15:20,020 --> 00:15:20,030 out to be the fundamental key 767 00:15:20,030 --> 00:15:21,790 out to be the fundamental key is a great teacher in front of the 768 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:21,800 is a great teacher in front of the 769 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,500 is a great teacher in front of the classroom if you don't have an effective 770 00:15:23,500 --> 00:15:23,510 classroom if you don't have an effective 771 00:15:23,510 --> 00:15:24,910 classroom if you don't have an effective teacher in the front of the classroom I 772 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:24,920 teacher in the front of the classroom I 773 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:26,380 teacher in the front of the classroom I don't care how big or small the building 774 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:26,390 don't care how big or small the building 775 00:15:26,390 --> 00:15:28,120 don't care how big or small the building is you're not going to change the 776 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:28,130 is you're not going to change the 777 00:15:28,130 --> 00:15:29,890 is you're not going to change the trajectory of whether that student will 778 00:15:29,890 --> 00:15:29,900 trajectory of whether that student will 779 00:15:29,900 --> 00:15:37,150 trajectory of whether that student will be ready for college so um Melinda this 780 00:15:37,150 --> 00:15:37,160 be ready for college so um Melinda this 781 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,700 be ready for college so um Melinda this is you and your eldest daughter Jenny 782 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:39,710 is you and your eldest daughter Jenny 783 00:15:39,710 --> 00:15:42,190 is you and your eldest daughter Jenny Jenny yeah and just taking three about 784 00:15:42,190 --> 00:15:42,200 Jenny yeah and just taking three about 785 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Jenny yeah and just taking three about three weeks ago I think so four weeks 786 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:43,370 three weeks ago I think so four weeks 787 00:15:43,370 --> 00:15:45,520 three weeks ago I think so four weeks ago where was this so we went to 788 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:45,530 ago where was this so we went to 789 00:15:45,530 --> 00:15:47,530 ago where was this so we went to Tanzania Jen's been to Tanzania all our 790 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:47,540 Tanzania Jen's been to Tanzania all our 791 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:48,820 Tanzania Jen's been to Tanzania all our kids have been to Africa quite a bit 792 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:48,830 kids have been to Africa quite a bit 793 00:15:48,830 --> 00:15:51,220 kids have been to Africa quite a bit actually and we did something very 794 00:15:51,220 --> 00:15:51,230 actually and we did something very 795 00:15:51,230 --> 00:15:53,170 actually and we did something very different which is we decided to go 796 00:15:53,170 --> 00:15:53,180 different which is we decided to go 797 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,210 different which is we decided to go spend two nights in three days with a 798 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:55,220 spend two nights in three days with a 799 00:15:55,220 --> 00:15:58,530 spend two nights in three days with a family ahna and cenar er the parents 800 00:15:58,530 --> 00:15:58,540 family ahna and cenar er the parents 801 00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:00,850 family ahna and cenar er the parents they invited us to come and stay in 802 00:16:00,850 --> 00:16:00,860 they invited us to come and stay in 803 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:03,580 they invited us to come and stay in their boma actually the goats had been 804 00:16:03,580 --> 00:16:03,590 their boma actually the goats had been 805 00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:04,960 their boma actually the goats had been there I think living in that particular 806 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:04,970 there I think living in that particular 807 00:16:04,970 --> 00:16:06,400 there I think living in that particular little Hut on their little compound 808 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:06,410 little Hut on their little compound 809 00:16:06,410 --> 00:16:09,070 little Hut on their little compound before we got there and we stayed with 810 00:16:09,070 --> 00:16:09,080 before we got there and we stayed with 811 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,230 before we got there and we stayed with their family and we really really 812 00:16:11,230 --> 00:16:11,240 their family and we really really 813 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,490 their family and we really really learned what life is like in rural 814 00:16:12,490 --> 00:16:12,500 learned what life is like in rural 815 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:14,710 learned what life is like in rural Tanzania and the difference between just 816 00:16:14,710 --> 00:16:14,720 Tanzania and the difference between just 817 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,230 Tanzania and the difference between just going and visiting for half a day or you 818 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:17,240 going and visiting for half a day or you 819 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,430 going and visiting for half a day or you know three-quarters of day versus 820 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:18,440 know three-quarters of day versus 821 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,830 know three-quarters of day versus staying overnight was profound and so 822 00:16:20,830 --> 00:16:20,840 staying overnight was profound and so 823 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,690 staying overnight was profound and so let me just give you one explanation of 824 00:16:22,690 --> 00:16:22,700 let me just give you one explanation of 825 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:25,600 let me just give you one explanation of that they had six children and as I 826 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:25,610 that they had six children and as I 827 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:27,070 that they had six children and as I talked to on in the kitchen we cooked 828 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:27,080 talked to on in the kitchen we cooked 829 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,720 talked to on in the kitchen we cooked for about five hours in the cooking Hut 830 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:28,730 for about five hours in the cooking Hut 831 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:30,520 for about five hours in the cooking Hut that day and as I talked to her she had 832 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:30,530 that day and as I talked to her she had 833 00:16:30,530 --> 00:16:32,380 that day and as I talked to her she had absolutely planned in space with her 834 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:32,390 absolutely planned in space with her 835 00:16:32,390 --> 00:16:34,240 absolutely planned in space with her husband the births of their children he 836 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:34,250 husband the births of their children he 837 00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:36,400 husband the births of their children he was a very loving relationship this is a 838 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:36,410 was a very loving relationship this is a 839 00:16:36,410 --> 00:16:38,770 was a very loving relationship this is a Maasai warrior and his wife but they had 840 00:16:38,770 --> 00:16:38,780 Maasai warrior and his wife but they had 841 00:16:38,780 --> 00:16:41,260 Maasai warrior and his wife but they had decided to get married they clearly had 842 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:41,270 decided to get married they clearly had 843 00:16:41,270 --> 00:16:42,850 decided to get married they clearly had respect and love in the relationship 844 00:16:42,850 --> 00:16:42,860 respect and love in the relationship 845 00:16:42,860 --> 00:16:45,280 respect and love in the relationship their children their six children the 846 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,290 their children their six children the 847 00:16:45,290 --> 00:16:48,040 their children their six children the two in the middle were twins 13 a boy 848 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:48,050 two in the middle were twins 13 a boy 849 00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:50,620 two in the middle were twins 13 a boy and a girl named Grace and when we go 850 00:16:50,620 --> 00:16:50,630 and a girl named Grace and when we go 851 00:16:50,630 --> 00:16:52,300 and a girl named Grace and when we go out to chop wood and do all the things 852 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:52,310 out to chop wood and do all the things 853 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:53,980 out to chop wood and do all the things that Grace and her mother would do grace 854 00:16:53,980 --> 00:16:53,990 that Grace and her mother would do grace 855 00:16:53,990 --> 00:16:56,530 that Grace and her mother would do grace was not a child she was an adolescent 856 00:16:56,530 --> 00:16:56,540 was not a child she was an adolescent 857 00:16:56,540 --> 00:16:58,330 was not a child she was an adolescent but she wasn't an adult she was very 858 00:16:58,330 --> 00:16:58,340 but she wasn't an adult she was very 859 00:16:58,340 --> 00:17:00,940 but she wasn't an adult she was very very shy so she kept wanting to talk to 860 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:00,950 very shy so she kept wanting to talk to 861 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:02,590 very shy so she kept wanting to talk to me and Jen we kept trying to engage her 862 00:17:02,590 --> 00:17:02,600 me and Jen we kept trying to engage her 863 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,950 me and Jen we kept trying to engage her but but she was shy and at night though 864 00:17:05,950 --> 00:17:05,960 but but she was shy and at night though 865 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,900 but but she was shy and at night though when all the lights went out in rural 866 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:07,910 when all the lights went out in rural 867 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:09,700 when all the lights went out in rural Tanzania there was no moon that night 868 00:17:09,700 --> 00:17:09,710 Tanzania there was no moon that night 869 00:17:09,710 --> 00:17:12,400 Tanzania there was no moon that night the first night and no stars and Jen 870 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,410 the first night and no stars and Jen 871 00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:15,220 the first night and no stars and Jen came out of our Hut with her rei little 872 00:17:15,220 --> 00:17:15,230 came out of our Hut with her rei little 873 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:18,910 came out of our Hut with her rei little headlamp on grace went immediately and 874 00:17:18,910 --> 00:17:18,920 headlamp on grace went immediately and 875 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,950 headlamp on grace went immediately and got the translator came straight up to 876 00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:20,960 got the translator came straight up to 877 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,650 got the translator came straight up to my Jenny said when you go home can I 878 00:17:23,650 --> 00:17:23,660 my Jenny said when you go home can I 879 00:17:23,660 --> 00:17:25,780 my Jenny said when you go home can I have your headlamp so I can study at 880 00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:25,790 have your headlamp so I can study at 881 00:17:25,790 --> 00:17:28,960 have your headlamp so I can study at night Wow and her dad had told me how 882 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:28,970 night Wow and her dad had told me how 883 00:17:28,970 --> 00:17:31,210 night Wow and her dad had told me how afraid he was that unlike the son who'd 884 00:17:31,210 --> 00:17:31,220 afraid he was that unlike the son who'd 885 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:33,530 afraid he was that unlike the son who'd passed a secondary exams because of her 886 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:33,540 passed a secondary exams because of her 887 00:17:33,540 --> 00:17:35,960 passed a secondary exams because of her she'd not done so well and wasn't in the 888 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:35,970 she'd not done so well and wasn't in the 889 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:38,210 she'd not done so well and wasn't in the government school yet he was he said I 890 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:38,220 government school yet he was he said I 891 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:39,410 government school yet he was he said I don't know how I'm gonna pay for her 892 00:17:39,410 --> 00:17:39,420 don't know how I'm gonna pay for her 893 00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:41,120 don't know how I'm gonna pay for her education I can't pay for private school 894 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:41,130 education I can't pay for private school 895 00:17:41,130 --> 00:17:43,610 education I can't pay for private school and she may end up on this farm like my 896 00:17:43,610 --> 00:17:43,620 and she may end up on this farm like my 897 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:45,710 and she may end up on this farm like my wife so they know the difference in an 898 00:17:45,710 --> 00:17:45,720 wife so they know the difference in an 899 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,990 wife so they know the difference in an education can make in a huge profound 900 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:48,000 education can make in a huge profound 901 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,620 education can make in a huge profound way I mean this is another pic of your 902 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:51,630 way I mean this is another pic of your 903 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:54,500 way I mean this is another pic of your other two kids Rory and Phoebe along 904 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:54,510 other two kids Rory and Phoebe along 905 00:17:54,510 --> 00:17:59,660 other two kids Rory and Phoebe along with poor farmer bringing up three 906 00:17:59,660 --> 00:17:59,670 with poor farmer bringing up three 907 00:17:59,670 --> 00:18:02,090 with poor farmer bringing up three children when you're the world's richest 908 00:18:02,090 --> 00:18:02,100 children when you're the world's richest 909 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:05,240 children when you're the world's richest family seems like a social experiment 910 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:05,250 family seems like a social experiment 911 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:09,530 family seems like a social experiment without much prior art how have you 912 00:18:09,530 --> 00:18:09,540 without much prior art how have you 913 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:11,980 without much prior art how have you managed it what's been your approach 914 00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:11,990 managed it what's been your approach 915 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:16,220 managed it what's been your approach well yeah I'd say overall it the kids 916 00:18:16,220 --> 00:18:16,230 well yeah I'd say overall it the kids 917 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:17,750 well yeah I'd say overall it the kids get a great education but you've got to 918 00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:17,760 get a great education but you've got to 919 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,950 get a great education but you've got to make sure they have a sense of their own 920 00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:18,960 make sure they have a sense of their own 921 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,980 make sure they have a sense of their own ability and what they're gonna go and do 922 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:20,990 ability and what they're gonna go and do 923 00:18:20,990 --> 00:18:24,260 ability and what they're gonna go and do you know our philosophies been you know 924 00:18:24,260 --> 00:18:24,270 you know our philosophies been you know 925 00:18:24,270 --> 00:18:25,820 you know our philosophies been you know to be very clear than most the money's 926 00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:25,830 to be very clear than most the money's 927 00:18:25,830 --> 00:18:28,640 to be very clear than most the money's going to the foundation and you know 928 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:28,650 going to the foundation and you know 929 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:30,590 going to the foundation and you know help them find something they're excited 930 00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:30,600 help them find something they're excited 931 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,330 help them find something they're excited about we want to strike a balance where 932 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:32,340 about we want to strike a balance where 933 00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:34,640 about we want to strike a balance where they have the freedom to do anything but 934 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:34,650 they have the freedom to do anything but 935 00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:37,370 they have the freedom to do anything but not sort of a lot of money showered on 936 00:18:37,370 --> 00:18:37,380 not sort of a lot of money showered on 937 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:39,590 not sort of a lot of money showered on them so that they they could go out and 938 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:39,600 them so that they they could go out and 939 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,410 them so that they they could go out and do nothing and so far they're you know 940 00:18:42,410 --> 00:18:42,420 do nothing and so far they're you know 941 00:18:42,420 --> 00:18:45,230 do nothing and so far they're you know fairly diligent excited to you know pick 942 00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:45,240 fairly diligent excited to you know pick 943 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,190 fairly diligent excited to you know pick their own directions 944 00:18:46,190 --> 00:18:46,200 their own directions 945 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,560 their own directions I mean you've obviously you know you've 946 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:48,570 I mean you've obviously you know you've 947 00:18:48,570 --> 00:18:51,410 I mean you've obviously you know you've got it the privacy carefully for obvious 948 00:18:51,410 --> 00:18:51,420 got it the privacy carefully for obvious 949 00:18:51,420 --> 00:18:54,350 got it the privacy carefully for obvious reasons I'm curious why you've given me 950 00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:54,360 reasons I'm curious why you've given me 951 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:55,910 reasons I'm curious why you've given me permission to show this picture now here 952 00:18:55,910 --> 00:18:55,920 permission to show this picture now here 953 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,450 permission to show this picture now here at Ted 954 00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:56,460 at Ted 955 00:18:56,460 --> 00:18:58,220 at Ted well it's interesting as they get older 956 00:18:58,220 --> 00:18:58,230 well it's interesting as they get older 957 00:18:58,230 --> 00:19:00,920 well it's interesting as they get older they so know that our family belief is 958 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:00,930 they so know that our family belief is 959 00:19:00,930 --> 00:19:03,410 they so know that our family belief is about responsibility that we are in an 960 00:19:03,410 --> 00:19:03,420 about responsibility that we are in an 961 00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:05,180 about responsibility that we are in an unbelievable situation just to live in 962 00:19:05,180 --> 00:19:05,190 unbelievable situation just to live in 963 00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:06,560 unbelievable situation just to live in the United States and have a great 964 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:06,570 the United States and have a great 965 00:19:06,570 --> 00:19:08,390 the United States and have a great education and we have a responsibility 966 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:08,400 education and we have a responsibility 967 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,250 education and we have a responsibility to give back to the world and so as they 968 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:10,260 to give back to the world and so as they 969 00:19:10,260 --> 00:19:12,050 to give back to the world and so as they get older and we are teaching them they 970 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:12,060 get older and we are teaching them they 971 00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:13,610 get older and we are teaching them they have been so many countries around the 972 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:13,620 have been so many countries around the 973 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:16,130 have been so many countries around the world they're saying you know we do want 974 00:19:16,130 --> 00:19:16,140 world they're saying you know we do want 975 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:17,570 world they're saying you know we do want people to know that we believe in what 976 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:17,580 people to know that we believe in what 977 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:19,430 people to know that we believe in what you're doing mom and dad and it is okay 978 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:19,440 you're doing mom and dad and it is okay 979 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,350 you're doing mom and dad and it is okay to show us more so we have their 980 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:21,360 to show us more so we have their 981 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,450 to show us more so we have their permission to show this picture and I 982 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:23,460 permission to show this picture and I 983 00:19:23,460 --> 00:19:24,590 permission to show this picture and I think Paul Farmer is probably going to 984 00:19:24,590 --> 00:19:24,600 think Paul Farmer is probably going to 985 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,960 think Paul Farmer is probably going to put it eventually and some of his his 986 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:26,970 put it eventually and some of his his 987 00:19:26,970 --> 00:19:29,120 put it eventually and some of his his work but they really care deeply about 988 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:29,130 work but they really care deeply about 989 00:19:29,130 --> 00:19:31,760 work but they really care deeply about the mission of the foundation too I mean 990 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:31,770 the mission of the foundation too I mean 991 00:19:31,770 --> 00:19:33,800 the mission of the foundation too I mean you've easily got enough money to spot 992 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:33,810 you've easily got enough money to spot 993 00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:35,120 you've easily got enough money to spot your vast contributions to the 994 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:35,130 your vast contributions to the 995 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:36,910 your vast contributions to the foundation to make them all billionaires 996 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:36,920 foundation to make them all billionaires 997 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,370 foundation to make them all billionaires is that your plan for them nope no they 998 00:19:40,370 --> 00:19:40,380 is that your plan for them nope no they 999 00:19:40,380 --> 00:19:42,020 is that your plan for them nope no they won't have anything like that day they 1000 00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:42,030 won't have anything like that day they 1001 00:19:42,030 --> 00:19:44,390 won't have anything like that day they need to have a sense that their own work 1002 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:44,400 need to have a sense that their own work 1003 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,190 need to have a sense that their own work is is meaningful and important 1004 00:19:47,190 --> 00:19:47,200 is is meaningful and important 1005 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,200 is is meaningful and important and you know we read an article long 1006 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:51,210 and you know we read an article long 1007 00:19:51,210 --> 00:19:53,580 and you know we read an article long actually before we got married where 1008 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:53,590 actually before we got married where 1009 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:55,529 actually before we got married where Warren Buffett talked about that and 1010 00:19:55,529 --> 00:19:55,539 Warren Buffett talked about that and 1011 00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:57,960 Warren Buffett talked about that and we're quite convinced that it wasn't a 1012 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:57,970 we're quite convinced that it wasn't a 1013 00:19:57,970 --> 00:20:00,769 we're quite convinced that it wasn't a favor either to society or to the kids 1014 00:20:00,769 --> 00:20:00,779 favor either to society or to the kids 1015 00:20:00,779 --> 00:20:03,139 favor either to society or to the kids well speaking of Warren Buffett 1016 00:20:03,139 --> 00:20:03,149 well speaking of Warren Buffett 1017 00:20:03,149 --> 00:20:05,250 well speaking of Warren Buffett something really amazing happened in 1018 00:20:05,250 --> 00:20:05,260 something really amazing happened in 1019 00:20:05,260 --> 00:20:09,000 something really amazing happened in 2006 when somehow your only real rival 1020 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,010 2006 when somehow your only real rival 1021 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:11,009 2006 when somehow your only real rival for richest person in America suddenly 1022 00:20:11,009 --> 00:20:11,019 for richest person in America suddenly 1023 00:20:11,019 --> 00:20:12,870 for richest person in America suddenly turn around and agreed to give 80% of 1024 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:12,880 turn around and agreed to give 80% of 1025 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,799 turn around and agreed to give 80% of his fortune to your foundation how on 1026 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:16,809 his fortune to your foundation how on 1027 00:20:16,809 --> 00:20:18,870 his fortune to your foundation how on earth did that happen I guess it's a 1028 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:18,880 earth did that happen I guess it's a 1029 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,250 earth did that happen I guess it's a long version of a short version of that 1030 00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:20,260 long version of a short version of that 1031 00:20:20,260 --> 00:20:22,560 long version of a short version of that we've got time for this show all right 1032 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:22,570 we've got time for this show all right 1033 00:20:22,570 --> 00:20:27,330 we've got time for this show all right well warm was a close friend and he was 1034 00:20:27,330 --> 00:20:27,340 well warm was a close friend and he was 1035 00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:30,419 well warm was a close friend and he was going to have his wife Susie give it all 1036 00:20:30,419 --> 00:20:30,429 going to have his wife Susie give it all 1037 00:20:30,429 --> 00:20:33,570 going to have his wife Susie give it all away tragically she passed away before 1038 00:20:33,570 --> 00:20:33,580 away tragically she passed away before 1039 00:20:33,580 --> 00:20:40,919 away tragically she passed away before he did and he's big on delegation and he 1040 00:20:40,919 --> 00:20:40,929 he did and he's big on delegation and he 1041 00:20:40,929 --> 00:20:43,830 he did and he's big on delegation and he said we thought you know he's got 1042 00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:43,840 said we thought you know he's got 1043 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,960 said we thought you know he's got somebody who's doing something well and 1044 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:45,970 somebody who's doing something well and 1045 00:20:45,970 --> 00:20:48,000 somebody who's doing something well and you know it's willing to do it at no 1046 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,010 you know it's willing to do it at no 1047 00:20:48,010 --> 00:20:51,570 you know it's willing to do it at no charge maybe that's okay but we were 1048 00:20:51,570 --> 00:20:51,580 charge maybe that's okay but we were 1049 00:20:51,580 --> 00:20:53,960 charge maybe that's okay but we were Sund you know we'd never orderly stunts 1050 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:53,970 Sund you know we'd never orderly stunts 1051 00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:56,039 Sund you know we'd never orderly stunts expected it and it it has been 1052 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:56,049 expected it and it it has been 1053 00:20:56,049 --> 00:20:58,560 expected it and it it has been unbelievable it's allowed us to increase 1054 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:58,570 unbelievable it's allowed us to increase 1055 00:20:58,570 --> 00:21:01,200 unbelievable it's allowed us to increase our ambition and what the foundation to 1056 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:01,210 our ambition and what the foundation to 1057 00:21:01,210 --> 00:21:03,570 our ambition and what the foundation to do quite dramatically I mean it's half 1058 00:21:03,570 --> 00:21:03,580 do quite dramatically I mean it's half 1059 00:21:03,580 --> 00:21:05,909 do quite dramatically I mean it's half the resources we have come from Warren's 1060 00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:05,919 the resources we have come from Warren's 1061 00:21:05,919 --> 00:21:08,310 the resources we have come from Warren's mind luring generosity I mean I think 1062 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:08,320 mind luring generosity I mean I think 1063 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,299 mind luring generosity I mean I think you've pledged that by the time you're 1064 00:21:09,299 --> 00:21:09,309 you've pledged that by the time you're 1065 00:21:09,309 --> 00:21:12,600 you've pledged that by the time you're done more than 95% of your wealth will 1066 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:12,610 done more than 95% of your wealth will 1067 00:21:12,610 --> 00:21:15,990 done more than 95% of your wealth will be given to the foundation yes and since 1068 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:16,000 be given to the foundation yes and since 1069 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,890 be given to the foundation yes and since this relationship it's amazing 1070 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:20,900 1071 00:21:20,900 --> 00:21:25,640 and recently you and Ann Warren have 1072 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:25,650 and recently you and Ann Warren have 1073 00:21:25,650 --> 00:21:26,990 and recently you and Ann Warren have been going around trying to persuade 1074 00:21:26,990 --> 00:21:27,000 been going around trying to persuade 1075 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,730 been going around trying to persuade other billionaires and successful people 1076 00:21:28,730 --> 00:21:28,740 other billionaires and successful people 1077 00:21:28,740 --> 00:21:32,269 other billionaires and successful people to pledge to give what more than half of 1078 00:21:32,269 --> 00:21:32,279 to pledge to give what more than half of 1079 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:36,799 to pledge to give what more than half of their assets - for philanthropy how is 1080 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:36,809 their assets - for philanthropy how is 1081 00:21:36,809 --> 00:21:40,490 their assets - for philanthropy how is that going well we've got about 120 1082 00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:40,500 that going well we've got about 120 1083 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,460 that going well we've got about 120 people who've now taken this Giving 1084 00:21:43,460 --> 00:21:43,470 people who've now taken this Giving 1085 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:45,890 people who've now taken this Giving Pledge the thing that's great is that we 1086 00:21:45,890 --> 00:21:45,900 Pledge the thing that's great is that we 1087 00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:49,370 Pledge the thing that's great is that we get together yearly and talk about ok do 1088 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:49,380 get together yearly and talk about ok do 1089 00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:50,930 get together yearly and talk about ok do you hire staff what do you give to them 1090 00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:50,940 you hire staff what do you give to them 1091 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:52,370 you hire staff what do you give to them we're not trying to modernize it I mean 1092 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:52,380 we're not trying to modernize it I mean 1093 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:53,600 we're not trying to modernize it I mean the beauty philanthropy is this 1094 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:53,610 the beauty philanthropy is this 1095 00:21:53,610 --> 00:21:56,149 the beauty philanthropy is this mind-blowing diversity people give to 1096 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:56,159 mind-blowing diversity people give to 1097 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:59,690 mind-blowing diversity people give to some things we look and go wow and but 1098 00:21:59,690 --> 00:21:59,700 some things we look and go wow and but 1099 00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:00,919 some things we look and go wow and but that's great that's the role of 1100 00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:00,929 that's great that's the role of 1101 00:22:00,929 --> 00:22:02,360 that's great that's the role of philanthropy is to pick different 1102 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:02,370 philanthropy is to pick different 1103 00:22:02,370 --> 00:22:04,669 philanthropy is to pick different approaches you know including even in 1104 00:22:04,669 --> 00:22:04,679 approaches you know including even in 1105 00:22:04,679 --> 00:22:06,590 approaches you know including even in one space like educationally we need 1106 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:06,600 one space like educationally we need 1107 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,750 one space like educationally we need more experimentation but it's been 1108 00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:08,760 more experimentation but it's been 1109 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 more experimentation but it's been wonderful meeting those people sharing 1110 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:11,250 wonderful meeting those people sharing 1111 00:22:11,250 --> 00:22:13,490 wonderful meeting those people sharing their journey to philanthropy how they 1112 00:22:13,490 --> 00:22:13,500 their journey to philanthropy how they 1113 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,139 their journey to philanthropy how they involve their kids where they're doing 1114 00:22:15,139 --> 00:22:15,149 involve their kids where they're doing 1115 00:22:15,149 --> 00:22:17,360 involve their kids where they're doing it differently and it's been way more 1116 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:17,370 it differently and it's been way more 1117 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:19,909 it differently and it's been way more successful than we expected now it looks 1118 00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:19,919 successful than we expected now it looks 1119 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,740 successful than we expected now it looks like we'll just keep growing in size in 1120 00:22:21,740 --> 00:22:21,750 like we'll just keep growing in size in 1121 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:23,889 like we'll just keep growing in size in the in the years ahead 1122 00:22:23,889 --> 00:22:23,899 the in the years ahead 1123 00:22:23,899 --> 00:22:27,019 the in the years ahead people telling how many people see that 1124 00:22:27,019 --> 00:22:27,029 people telling how many people see that 1125 00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:29,060 people telling how many people see that other people are making change with 1126 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:29,070 other people are making change with 1127 00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:30,560 other people are making change with philanthropy I mean these are people who 1128 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:30,570 philanthropy I mean these are people who 1129 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:33,049 philanthropy I mean these are people who have created their own businesses put 1130 00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:33,059 have created their own businesses put 1131 00:22:33,059 --> 00:22:34,970 have created their own businesses put their own ingenuity behind incredible 1132 00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:34,980 their own ingenuity behind incredible 1133 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:37,220 their own ingenuity behind incredible ideas if they put their ideas and their 1134 00:22:37,220 --> 00:22:37,230 ideas if they put their ideas and their 1135 00:22:37,230 --> 00:22:39,500 ideas if they put their ideas and their brain behind philanthropy they can 1136 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:39,510 brain behind philanthropy they can 1137 00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:41,120 brain behind philanthropy they can change the world and they start to see 1138 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:41,130 change the world and they start to see 1139 00:22:41,130 --> 00:22:43,639 change the world and they start to see others doing it and saying wow I want to 1140 00:22:43,639 --> 00:22:43,649 others doing it and saying wow I want to 1141 00:22:43,649 --> 00:22:45,200 others doing it and saying wow I want to do that with my own main to me that's 1142 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,210 do that with my own main to me that's 1143 00:22:45,210 --> 00:22:47,450 do that with my own main to me that's the piece that's incredible it seems to 1144 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:47,460 the piece that's incredible it seems to 1145 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:48,950 the piece that's incredible it seems to me it's it's it's actually it's really 1146 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:48,960 me it's it's it's actually it's really 1147 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,810 me it's it's it's actually it's really hard for some people to figure out even 1148 00:22:50,810 --> 00:22:50,820 hard for some people to figure out even 1149 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:52,880 hard for some people to figure out even what how to remotely spend that much 1150 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:52,890 what how to remotely spend that much 1151 00:22:52,890 --> 00:22:55,730 what how to remotely spend that much money on on something else I mean there 1152 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:55,740 money on on something else I mean there 1153 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:57,500 money on on something else I mean there there are probably some billionaires in 1154 00:22:57,500 --> 00:22:57,510 there are probably some billionaires in 1155 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:59,120 there are probably some billionaires in the room and certainly some successful 1156 00:22:59,120 --> 00:22:59,130 the room and certainly some successful 1157 00:22:59,130 --> 00:22:59,659 the room and certainly some successful people 1158 00:22:59,659 --> 00:22:59,669 people 1159 00:22:59,669 --> 00:23:01,669 people I'm curious can you make the pitch 1160 00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:01,679 I'm curious can you make the pitch 1161 00:23:01,679 --> 00:23:03,919 I'm curious can you make the pitch what's the pitch well it's the most 1162 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:03,929 what's the pitch well it's the most 1163 00:23:03,929 --> 00:23:07,940 what's the pitch well it's the most fulfilling thing we've ever done and you 1164 00:23:07,940 --> 00:23:07,950 fulfilling thing we've ever done and you 1165 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:09,769 fulfilling thing we've ever done and you know you can't take it with you and if 1166 00:23:09,769 --> 00:23:09,779 know you can't take it with you and if 1167 00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:11,600 know you can't take it with you and if it's not good for your kids you know 1168 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:11,610 it's not good for your kids you know 1169 00:23:11,610 --> 00:23:13,310 it's not good for your kids you know then let's get together and brainstorm 1170 00:23:13,310 --> 00:23:13,320 then let's get together and brainstorm 1171 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,159 then let's get together and brainstorm about you know what what can be done the 1172 00:23:16,159 --> 00:23:16,169 about you know what what can be done the 1173 00:23:16,169 --> 00:23:18,710 about you know what what can be done the world is a far better place because of 1174 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:18,720 world is a far better place because of 1175 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,440 world is a far better place because of the philanthropists of the past and the 1176 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:21,450 the philanthropists of the past and the 1177 00:23:21,450 --> 00:23:23,480 the philanthropists of the past and the US tradition here which is the strongest 1178 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:23,490 US tradition here which is the strongest 1179 00:23:23,490 --> 00:23:25,970 US tradition here which is the strongest is the envy of the world and parlours 1180 00:23:25,970 --> 00:23:25,980 is the envy of the world and parlours 1181 00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:28,100 is the envy of the world and parlours done so optimistic is because I do think 1182 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:28,110 done so optimistic is because I do think 1183 00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:30,529 done so optimistic is because I do think philanthropy is is going to grow and 1184 00:23:30,529 --> 00:23:30,539 philanthropy is is going to grow and 1185 00:23:30,539 --> 00:23:32,450 philanthropy is is going to grow and take some of these things government's 1186 00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:32,460 take some of these things government's 1187 00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:33,800 take some of these things government's just not going to work 1188 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:33,810 just not going to work 1189 00:23:33,810 --> 00:23:36,350 just not going to work and discovering and and shine some light 1190 00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:36,360 and discovering and and shine some light 1191 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,380 and discovering and and shine some light in the right direction the world's got 1192 00:23:39,380 --> 00:23:39,390 in the right direction the world's got 1193 00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:41,480 in the right direction the world's got this terrible inequality growing 1194 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:41,490 this terrible inequality growing 1195 00:23:41,490 --> 00:23:43,250 this terrible inequality growing inequality problem that seems structural 1196 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:43,260 inequality problem that seems structural 1197 00:23:43,260 --> 00:23:45,620 inequality problem that seems structural it does seem to be that if more of your 1198 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:45,630 it does seem to be that if more of your 1199 00:23:45,630 --> 00:23:48,260 it does seem to be that if more of your peers took the approach that you two 1200 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:48,270 peers took the approach that you two 1201 00:23:48,270 --> 00:23:50,990 peers took the approach that you two have made you would make a dent in both 1202 00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:51,000 have made you would make a dent in both 1203 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,220 have made you would make a dent in both in that problem and certainly in the 1204 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:52,230 in that problem and certainly in the 1205 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:53,870 in that problem and certainly in the perception of that problem it's not a 1206 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:53,880 perception of that problem it's not a 1207 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,790 perception of that problem it's not a fair comment oh yeah if you take from 1208 00:23:55,790 --> 00:23:55,800 fair comment oh yeah if you take from 1209 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,290 fair comment oh yeah if you take from the most well teen you give to the least 1210 00:23:57,290 --> 00:23:57,300 the most well teen you give to the least 1211 00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:00,590 the most well teen you give to the least wealthy it it's good tries to balance 1212 00:24:00,590 --> 00:24:00,600 wealthy it it's good tries to balance 1213 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,360 wealthy it it's good tries to balance that and that's that's John said you 1214 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:02,370 that and that's that's John said you 1215 00:24:02,370 --> 00:24:04,580 that and that's that's John said you change systems I mean in the u.s. we're 1216 00:24:04,580 --> 00:24:04,590 change systems I mean in the u.s. we're 1217 00:24:04,590 --> 00:24:06,650 change systems I mean in the u.s. we're trying to change the education system so 1218 00:24:06,650 --> 00:24:06,660 trying to change the education system so 1219 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,230 trying to change the education system so it's just for everybody and it works for 1220 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:09,240 it's just for everybody and it works for 1221 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,750 it's just for everybody and it works for all students I mean that to me really 1222 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:11,760 all students I mean that to me really 1223 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,130 all students I mean that to me really changes the energy ability balance 1224 00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:13,140 changes the energy ability balance 1225 00:24:13,140 --> 00:24:20,030 changes the energy ability balance that's the most important well I really 1226 00:24:20,030 --> 00:24:20,040 that's the most important well I really 1227 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,430 that's the most important well I really think that most people here and many 1228 00:24:22,430 --> 00:24:22,440 think that most people here and many 1229 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,760 think that most people here and many millions around the world just in awe of 1230 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:24,770 millions around the world just in awe of 1231 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:27,290 millions around the world just in awe of the trajectory or lives are taken and 1232 00:24:27,290 --> 00:24:27,300 the trajectory or lives are taken and 1233 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:31,250 the trajectory or lives are taken and the the spectacular degree to which you 1234 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:31,260 the the spectacular degree to which you 1235 00:24:31,260 --> 00:24:33,650 the the spectacular degree to which you have shaped the future thank you so much 1236 00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:33,660 have shaped the future thank you so much 1237 00:24:33,660 --> 00:24:46,779 have shaped the future thank you so much for coming thank you thank you 1238 00:24:46,779 --> 00:24:46,789 1239 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:50,799 thank you 1240 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:50,809 1241 00:24:50,809 --> 00:24:54,020 good job